Hi Karthik,

    If you are adamant and dont' want to agree so be
it.  

    Anyways what do you say for "Roja Roja..." song
from Kadhalar Dinam getting inspired from MSV
composition of Varumai Niram Sivappu.  Is that also
not a copy.

    And for your kind information SPB after singing
the "Kadhale en Kadhale..." song from Duet told that
this song is composed in Raga Mandu and the stength of
Rahman lies in the usage of this Raga has he has used
the same raga even in "Anjali Anjali..."


Pavana Kumar C.M

--- Karthik S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> >>>has shades of Mandu
> From mandu , you have come to the shades of Mandu...
> 
> >>>Do you need more authoritative statement on this.
> Yes, because, under what context he said so and what
> part did he say that it
> is Mandu..What I could recollect is that song has
> shades of Raaga Bouli
> also.
> Swapnil and other Classical Gurus can throw light
> here...I am a classical
> illiterate...
> 
> >>>people like Akil and Mr. Ahmed have
> > given some thought to it.
> They are simply enjoying our heated
> conversation...tell me one guy who is
> supporting you with the same falsified conviction
> that you have...I have
> received mails personally from many here regarding
> this issue...
> 
> 
> >>>Hindolam RAGA (in hindustani it is called 
> Malkouns)
> Correct...Thats great again.
> 
> >>>Why did he need to use that tune when  other 
> music directors have been
> using this RAGA in
> > different style (i mean in Hindustani and
> Carnatic)
> > and created beautiful tunes..
> 
> Where did he use the same tune...? the whole song is
> entirely different from
> the suprabhaatham...isn't it?..ARR used that
> suprabhatham tune in the
> prelude and one part of interlude because the whole
> situation starts on a
> fine morning and the heroine sets out free, meaning
> its anew pleasant
> morning for her. tell me if ARR had intended to
> actually copy it, did he do
> it in such a way on an obviously ever popular
> tune?....Ingeyum Logic
> odhaikkudhu....Madila ganam irundhaa than manasula
> bhayam irukkum...ARR used
> that tune as it is because, it was only supposed to
> be used like
> that...ithukku per thaan improvisation...just like
> how IR used
> "mudhakaraatha modakam" sloka tune into "varaadhu
> vandha naayagan" song for
> one of parthiban-Kushboo-Rupini film(I forgot the
> films name)...Atleast
> there the actual song will resemble the sloka tune,
> but here in the case of
> May Madam...no way man...
> 
> Bye
> Karthik
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pavana Kumar CM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT.... - Blatant Copy
> of Sowkkiyama song!!!
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > Karthik,
> >
> > .  Anjali.. Anjali.. in the
> > charanam has shades of Mandu... and this has also
> been
> > told by SPB in a programme (forget about me, as I
> am
> > just a drop in the ocean of carnatic music) on
> Kairali
> > called "Symphony" which comes every saturday night
> at
> > 9:00PM.    He told the strength of Rahman lies in
> the
> > usage of this Raga and that's why he told both the
> > songs in this file (Duet) are based on Raga
> Mandu..."
> > Do you need more authoritative statement on this.
> >
> >     It's good that you are allowing me to express
> my
> > views because there's some truth in it which you
> only
> > are denying and people like Akil and Mr. Ahmed
> have
> > given some thought to it.
> >
> >     I am sure people are going to realize one day
> or
> > the other and truth obviously cannot be
> suppressed.
> >
> >     Naan onnu Vidwan innu sollikkaleye... though
> my
> > knowledge of carnatic music is good, i cannot call
> > myself an expert.. and for your kind information
> and
> > whatever knowledge I have "margazhi poove..." song
> is
> > based on Hindolam RAGA (in hindustani it is called
> > Malkouns).  Why did he need to use that tune when
> > other  music directors have been using this RAGA
> in
> > different style (i mean in Hindustani and
> Carnatic)
> > and created beautiful tunes..
> >
> >
> >
> > Pavana
> >
> > --- Karthik S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > You are a desperate fan of a drowning
> > > MD...right...anyway...my duty is to
> > > enlighten you with facts...
> > >
> > > >>>I have learnt carnatic  classical music
> > > Thing is you should learn it even better when
> you
> > > put on facts...
> > >
> > > Anjali..Anjali belongs to Raaga .."Behag" a
> > > Hindustani raaga...where is
> > > Mandu there? Do you know the song "Humko man ki
> > > shakthi dena" song from "do
> > > aakhen Baarah Haath"...its a famous film and the
> > > song is also based on
> > > Behag...AGAIN A MIS-FIRE..
> > >
> > > >>>This is forum where one  can express his
> views
> > >
> > > True ..that is why you are still expressing what
> you
> > > alone thing is a
> > > genuine opinion...HAs the moderator ever
> interfered
> > > in your blabbers...The
> > > moderator of your camp would have by now issued
> a
> > > fatwa....if such an
> > > argument e vr even creeped in his group about
> his
> > > MD...We are no Talibans
> > > here...You are welcome to question...but
> remember
> > > for any thing there is a
> > > limit...when in rain if a jackal looses its
> colour
> > > of a tiger...then you
> > > know what will happen to it.
> > >
> > > >>>nobody can deny it because it is so evident..
> > > Only to  you...Has anybody agreed to
> you...Gather
> > > few of your camp men who
> > > are in disguise here to come in support of
> you...In
> > > a country of such a
> > > large population (4500+ members) we can expects
> few
> > > black sheeps.
> > >
> > > >>>but did he not copy the tune of  "kausalya
> > > supraja rama..."
> > >
> > > This is the height of comedy ever...It is quite
> > > obvious that the tune is
> > > infact the suprabhatham....why...because...The
> > > heroine in the film..gets
> > > introduced with that song in the morning...its a
> new
> > > day for her where she
> > > hopes to get free from her strict home..Dear
> > > Genius!!! don't you see the
> > > actual song is no where near the tune of
> > > suprabhatham...Thiru Carnatic
> > > Vidhwaan avargale...can you tell me in which
> raaga
> > > it is composed?
> > >
> > > >>>If you don't agree with it so be it... the
> fact
> > > is he has lifted
> > >
> 
=== message truncated ===



                
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