Karthik, You raise some interesting questions here. I hope my efforts in joining this discussion arent misconstrued as a 'know-it-all Taran Adarsh' answering the questions.
> Who gets to lose when we fans download mp3s and not > buy the original > CDs/ Tapes? Rahman or the music label? The way I understand it is that the producer sells the audio rights to the music label that offers him the 'best' price. Not buying original tapes/cds would make the music labels undergo a loss. Consequently they'd offer a lower price next time, and hence the producer gets lesser from the audio sales rights. That possibly extrapolates to music composers getting lesser from the producers the next time. If I'm not mistaken one recent article said that audio sales havent been too good for the Tamil film industry and many folks (including ARR) have reduced the rates they charge. > If the music label loses, will not go to Rahman > again? Was it his > mistake in the first place? I guess a number of factors come to play here when a music release turns to be a loss- 1) The producer/ music label. Did they do their job in generating enough publicity through media outlets for the product? 2) The composer. Did he/she deliver an album that the public will like? 3) The movie. Some audio sales are said to pick up after the movie is released. If the movie was a damp squib then will it help in making the audio sales any better after its release. > Why do music labels force people to buy a CD, that > can otherwise > accomodate a lot more, that has only 6 tracks? > What is stopping them from innovating simple things > - include BGMs, comment by the composer, ... extras? Excellent point! It would be great if we could have those extra features like film score (BGM), comments and such. But how many folks have completed the film score before the date of the audio release? Isnt the audio typically released a month before the movie is? The movie goes to post-production status around then and I assume thats when the score, final edits, sound mixing... is done. ARR might have completed the film score before the audio release date but are others doing it that way too? Aside from that I personally feel that much of todays film score (am talking in general. not pinpointing ARR) is a hodge-podge job with multiple inspirations. I think Autograph conveniently used Horner's Braveheart theme and a popular song (the name eludes me at the moment but its possibly 'Every Breath You Take'). Yuvan Shankar Raja used a nice chunk from Ennio Morricone's Moses theme for Punnagai Poove. The Tamil film Jithan used Joe Hisaishi's Kikujiro theme a number of times. I guess everyone knows about Deva and his brother ripping off Brad Fiedel's Terminator theme not just in Baasha but also in Bhagavathy. Would those who compose the score want to get into trouble when they release those on CD and leave it for closer scrutiny? Also not all music directors compose the BGM as well. Would the music director like to share space with the score composer in the audio release? Music comments and making-of-soundtrack would be great but are there enough interested folks for the music companies to include that as a regular feature? If the score is recorded at an orchestra in US or Europe then there are usually reuse fees to be paid to the musicians union. Here's a link that talks abt that in more detail- http://tinyurl.com/cqc4c Some of the extra features may cost money to include. Does that offset the expenses involved with the cd production and how much revenue they expect from it? > I usually download mp3s and buy only cassettes - for > two reasons. To > play in my car and to not feel guilty >... In the bottorrent forums that I > usually download from, > I was able to see nearly 700 seeds (people who have > downloaded fully Karthik, if you're the guy who's running the fabulous ITwoFS then I'm disheartened to know that you're illegally getting a higher quality product while paying for something lower. You nail music-pirates at your site while (I fear) you're guilty of some sort of music piracy as well. It defeats, in part, what you're trying to say with ITwoFs. You blasted Sandeep Chowta for crediting only some of his rip-offs/inspirations in Pyar Tune Kya Kiya while he left others uncredited. And now you're saying that you paid for a cassette but got the mp3s for free!! > tracks available in iTunes for 99 cents is available > in many other > torrents and P2Ps like soulseek/ Kazaa/ eMule, for > free! And still > iTunes succeeds. And how? The success of legal paid-for downloads is largely due to the massive crackdown on file sharing systems. Granted that they havent caught everyone, but the RIAA is getting there. The fines and convictions meted out to the pirates act as a deterrent to folks who are potential illegal-content providers. People know that they could get into trouble for pirated mp3. 99cents is a terrific deal compared to a lot of headache later. Granted that the Indian authorities havent seriously effected a crackdown on music pirates; that audio companies are giving us a rough deal with short music releases on cd, but that does not in any way justify us in downloading mp3 (illegally). (since there arent any legal, paid-for-downloads for indian film music AFAIK) If you have the cd, use a free software to convert to mp3 if thats more convenient for you. If you have a cassette, live with it. Sorry to be so blunt, but thats the fact. > trivia about the man. We could very well prove a > point, if need be. > It could be unconvetional - like the Japanese > shoe-factory strike, > where they worked during strikes, but produced shoes > only for the > left foot. Some sort of initiative like that would be great! Perhaps folks could get ARR to voice his opinion on this to the music companies. I'd support Karthik's idea of buying cassettes and boycotting cds (as long as it doesnt mean that we get the mp3 illegally). 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