While it is true that everyone is entitled to an opinion, I am sick of this “ARR losing his magic” phrase…

ARR delivered many wonderful tunes after alaipayudhey and KK some of which you had already mentioned.

Even during the socalled golden period, not every song in every album is magic. If every song is a magic, the word itself would be redundant right?

I have not seen a more consistent composer than ARR in these modern days.

I personally feel ARRs music has matured with time a lot and is lot more different than during the middle years.

Cheers
Vijay


From: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com [mailto:arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doraiswamy S.
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:52 PM
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [arr] What does the weak exposure of music of Rang De Basanti prove ?

 

I am an ARR fan but I dont find RDB all that good .. its ok in parts and he shows his briliance at some places .. but not very consistent though .. atleast to novice listeners like me. I think I have listened to Bluffmaster and Zinda more than RDB. I havent heard Kalyug.

I dont find in RDB the kind of value I found in Alaipayuthey, Dil Se or Kandukodein. ARR himself is to blame for the high standards he set for himself in his intial years. Sadly I think he is not able to do that now. His golden period where everything he touched turned gold ..seemed to end after AlaiPayuthey and KK, 2 magnificient albums that released so close to each other. After that he did produce gems like Bose, Meenaxi .. but he couldnt strike chord with the general public. And that matters a lot.

On 1/8/06, dsuday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From what I understand from some of the posts which have been put across
by members, it seems that RDB Music is not a sales success which was a
shock to me as this seems to be one of the Best Music of 2000's....

We do not have the Nielson soundscans or NPD surverys type thing in
India, hence it would be premature to assume that this hasnt sold well
till information confirming this is made available.

That there is currently a kind of Bias or a movement with sole purpose
of undermining ARR's effort and ignore the variety of his creativity
with misinformation, half truths and pure ignorance.

At one end we have the Music professionals who make comments which
strive to undermine his musical genius, while during his hey days
heaped praise on his abilities, ofcourse there were Old timers who had
criticised him from his early days but I am talking about the current
crop who are doing their best to discredit him now.

At other end we have "music lovers" if you call them so (I know it
sound s pretty condescending as if I am being very biased...but it is
not so), who say that "his music is repetiive" "his creativity is
limited" "okay some songs were good but that doesnt mean he is great"
"he is not versatle...look at RD burman etc. The music loving
public who used to buy the album just by seeing his name in the late
90's are not opening up and buying his music as they used to do so and
therby contributing to the decline.

>From what I understand from my experience and I am not any
professional just a layman who can feel and experience good music, and
judge what is a creation of greatness, what is mediocre, what is
ephemeral. Just like other members I just believe in my instincts to
judge music. Indian public has been fed on similar kind of popular
music since the LP records started selling here. All the songs confirm
to some Basic rules, have a defined structure and were inspired by
the Classical musics of different era...modified and downgraded so
that the general public can enjoy them. That is the only bit of
innovation they did, they made music in such a way that it appeals to
the common man and he came to expect all the songs to follow similar
standards, and in this limited setup many great music pieces have come
which have been of great artistic and commercial success. The only
musicians who tried to do some sort of innovation to this setup was RD
Burman and OP Nayyar and probably few others. Their music was hit and
apprecaited but nobody would have called them great musicians. From
what I have seen RD Burman's became recognized as a great Music
director since his death, as the industry found his output was of
remixable quality which can appeal to the current generations. This
infact grew his popularity and made people like me end up buying all
the available collection of his original song currently existing in
market. In this kind of setup ARR had set in and brought in an
entirely different musical experience to the music loving public. He
defined and created something called Individual style in which the
musician is recognized just by listening to the music. Though this
would be a bare minimum in other places as just by listening to a
small sample people were able to judge whether the song was by The
WHo, Pink Floyd, Queen, Led Zeppelin etc else, this ability became
something special here.

ARR's popularity and his musical successes grew and he seemed to
garner all major awards and had excellent sales to show. He was by far
the greatest Music Director in India and had a star power no musician
ever enjoyed in India.

And then came the "Going International" phase, during the time which
most of his Indian releases tanked. In the end it all turned to
success for his music which we of Blockbuster quality and the last
major hits turned out ot be Lagaan and Saathiya. His musically
superior albums which were released subsequently did not do as well as
they might have deserved, many of the movies didnt have the star power
and incase they had star power (Swades, Mangal Pandey) the music was
so true to the subject that it was not possible for them to be
immediately appeable in the current scenario of bubblegum remixes and
songs. Infact these have been stated as ARR' musical decline and loss
of commercial credibility.

Today ARR is in a position where his music would be compared to his
peers (who are worthless except SEL)and his music would have to be of
Blockbusterish quality to sell. I had thought RDB had a very great
possibility of bringing back ARR on the league he once was in again,
but it seems to be not so. I hope that after the release of the movie
and if it becomes a success people understand and appreciate the music
better and give the man his due.

Or he should completely be concentrating more on International Project
s and maybe he will reach the stature of John Williams or James
Horner. Atleast the collective worldwide audience would not expect
predictability once they acknowledge his genius.







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