it is not important to always have qawwali type number or a typical sufi type number to consider it a sufi song. The central concept in Sufism is love. If you read the lyrics carefully, youll see many references to love and religion. especially islam. Sufis believe that God desires to recognize beauty. That can also be seen in the lyrics.I would consider to be the more sufi type of song because of its reference to god and beauty.
THE LOVE AND RELIGION PART: -Jinke Sar Ho Ishq Ki Chaaon The words ishq and jannat are used as Paanv Ke Neeche Jannat Hogi a cause and effect. -Taabeez Banaa Ke Pahnoo Use Aayat Ki Tarah Mil Jaaye Kahin Sufis wear tabeezes. and an aayat is a sentence from the Quran -Mera Nagma Wahi Mera Kalma Wahi Kalma= Special prayer. reference to religion once again. One of the Sufi practices is DHIKR, this means to remember God that is commanded in the Quran, which may include recitation, singing, instrumental music, dance, costumes, incense, meditation, ecstasy, and trance. BEAUTY PART: -Woh Yaar Hai Jo Khusbhu Ki Tarah The beauty in the friend and Jiski Zubaan Urdu Ki Tarah comparing it to beautiful things A type of worship so to say. well i hope this helped you out into understanding why this is a sufi number. AS FOR WHAT SONG THIS WAS INSPIRED FROM go to this link, on the far top right there is a list of artists, click abida parveen, it appears that she has an album by the name of BABA BULLEH SHAH, maybe thats the one. i cant recognize exactly which one it may be inspired from but i think its JO RANG RANGAYA because it says somesthing about yaar and rang, which are similar in chaiyya chaiyya, but i dunno. http://pakistanimusic.com/ --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "ashwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi, > mayb the lyrics r based on that song, 'coz chaiyya chaiyaa is a > peppy no, i don't see the tune being sufi. > > ash > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Gomtesh Upadhye" > <gomtesh.upadhye@> wrote: > > > > Hey Guys > > > > "Chhaiyya Chhaiyya" ("That was > > based on a Sufi song from Bulleh Shah, sung originally by Abida > Parvin"). > > > > What the hell is he talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????? > > > > Gomzy > > > > On 2/24/06, Arijit Debnath <arijit741@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Excellent to raed the article. Just went through ARR's thought > about his > > > destination and only one thing came to my mind----why should we > worry about > > > other MDs to overtake ARR's music etc etc----many MDs/composers > will > > > come---compose music------create history----may be better > composition than > > > ARR-------but no one can be a greater phylosopher or a good human > being than > > > ARR----that's why we all be feeling proud to be his fan. > > > > > > Arijit > > > > > > > > > On 24/02/06, Karthik S <6times9@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.indiawest.com/view.php? > subaction=showfull&id=1140722059&archive=&start_from=&ucat=7 > > > > > > > > A Look Inside the Mind and Soul of Composer A.R. Rahman > > > > > > > > By LISA TSERING > > > > India-West Staff Reporter > > > > > > > > PALO ALTO, Calif. - The superstar was down-to-earth, with an > easy > > > > laugh, self-deprecating air, and an ingratiating willingness to > speak > > > > from the heart. A.R. Rahman traced his career from pre-Roja to > > > > post-Rang De Basanti in an intimate, satisfying onstage chat at > > > > Stanford University's Dinkelspiel Auditorium Feb. 14 during the > > > > school's Pan-Asian Music Festival. > > > > > > > > Visiting ethnomusicology professor Natalie Sarrazin prefaced the > > > > conversation by tracing the history of what film music was like > before > > > > a 25-year-old Rahman burst on the scene in 1991 with Roja. > > > > > > > > Sarrazin offered a fascinating look at the history of Hindi > film music > > > > with its penchant for absorbing international influences and its > > > > unwritten rules. Each example was illuminated with a charming > snippet > > > > of video, from films such as Shree 420, Sholay and Dilwale > Dulhaniya > > > > Le Jayenge. > > > > > > > > "There are certain 'codes' - iconic sound images - that recur in > > > > Indian film music," she said. "The timbre of the Indian female > voice > > > > is quite prominent, you hear large orchestras and soaring > violins, and > > > > a wall of sound ... rising violins are a code for a love song." > > > > > > > > Rahman turned it all upside down, she explained. > > > > > > > > "The first thing he did was to take the orchestral introduction > and > > > > completely get rid of it." Cueing a scene from the Tamil film > > > > Gentleman (Rahman's Tamil compositions were not overlooked > during the > > > > evening), she demonstrated how Rahman brought in one instrument > at a > > > > time, creating musical tension. To cheers and shouts from the > > > > audience, Sarrazin moved on to musical scenes from Rahman's > scores > > > > that have become icons themselves: Mani Ratnam's Roja (the witty > > > > "Rukmani Rukmani"), Bombay ("Tu Hi Re"), the Hindi version of > Yuva and > > > > Dil Se ("Chhaiyya Chhaiyya"); Tehzeeb and Saathiya. > > > > > > > > "He often puts two incongruous styles together that somehow > seem to > > > > work," Sarrazin observed, with a clip from Lagaan's > English/Hindi song > > > > "O Re Chori" and Sushmita Sen's jittery "Shakalaka Baby" > (Nayak), > > > > which was one of his hit songs reworked to great effect > in "Bombay > > > > Dreams." > > > > > > > > As much as his fans and fellow artists love his music, Rahman is > > > > notorious for taking his time on each project. "I have a nice > > > > relationship with all directors, but I drive the producers > crazy," he > > > > joked. "Mani [Ratnam] tells me the story that he told me for > Roja, 'I > > > > need five songs, and I need them yesterday.' I was gone for > three > > > > months." > > > > > > > > Working with lyricists, too, has its quirks. "Sometimes Gulzar- > sahib > > > > or Javed-sahib will give me just a title. Other times, they > want the > > > > tune first, then they'll give the lyrics." > > > > > > > > One of the reasons Roja was such a departure from the style of > music > > > > at the time was the way it was recorded, explained Rahman. "At > the > > > > time, there were these huge recording halls, with 50 violins," > he > > > > said. "But I was doing commercials in my own studio. When Mani > wanted > > > > me to do the music, I said, 'Let's do it at my place.' > > > > > > > > "I called my musician friends to come for the session, but at > the last > > > > minute they all ditched me! I think they had all been offered > more > > > > money somewhere that day," he said, laughing along with the > audience. > > > > > > > > "But my mother said, 'God will provide.' I ended up recording > [the > > > > instrumental version of ]'Choti Si Asha' by myself, on a > keyboard and > > > > sequencer. I thought I'd need to bring in 50 violins, but Mani > said > > > > 'No, just be yourself. Follow your instincts.'" > > > > > > > > Since he got his start writing ad jingles, wasn't it > intimidating to > > > > take on the soundtrack to an entire three-hour film, asked > Sarrazin. > > > > "I was terrified in the beginning," replied Rahman. "But then I > > > > learned that if I could write a piece of music that was 30 > seconds > > > > long, then all I'd have to do is repeat it!" > > > > > > > > He's not afraid to repeat what works. Rahman's haunting, cello- > heavy > > > > Bombay theme, used to poignant effect in that film and in Deepa > > > > Mehta's Fire, also cropped up in the Nicolas Cage vehicle Lord > of War. > > > > And when he was first approached for "Bombay Dreams" by > impresario > > > > Andrew Lloyd Webber, he said, "I decided, I won't tell them > I'll use > > > > my old film songs!" ("Ishq Bina" and other hits were reworked in > > > > English for the play.) > > > > > > > > Rahman traced the history of some of his best-loved pieces, > such as > > > > the ambitious Vande Mataram project and "Chhaiyya Chhaiyya" > ("That was > > > > based on a Sufi song from Bulleh Shah, sung originally by Abida > > > > Parvin"). > > > > > > > > Superlatives follow Rahman around like a spotlight: one of > India's > > > > most prolific and top-selling composers; reportedly the world's > > > > top-selling artist, with many millions of records sold, he is > now one > > > > of the world's most border-bending artists as well. > > > > > > > > Just before the Stanford talk, Rahman had jetted from Toronto, > where > > > > he was overseeing previews of the highly anticipated, lavishly > mounted > > > > stage show "Lord of the Rings," which will open in March. > > > > > > > > "It's the most exciting project I've ever worked on," he > observed. > > > > "They have 18 big hydraulic things, and people on stilts. It's > amazing." > > > > > > > > Classically trained at Trinity College of Music in Britain, > Rahman, a > > > > Padmashree honoree, brought an entirely new sound to the London > and > > > > Broadway stage with his sparkling score to "Bombay Dreams" (a > touring > > > > production opened in Costa Mesa, Calif., Feb. 22). > > > > > > > > Indeed, the morning after this event, Rahman boarded a plane > for Hong > > > > Kong, where he led a performance of his cutting-edge "3rd > Dimension" > > > > show Feb. 18. Rahman's latest tour has the audience don 3D > glasses as > > > > vocalists such as Alka Yagnik, Udit Narayan, Daler Mehndi, > Shankar > > > > Mahadevan, Chitra and Hariharan perform his hits. > > > > > > > > Rahman has composed the music for a Chinese film (Warriors of > Heaven > > > > and Earth) and is at work on a symphonic piece for the > Birmingham > > > > Orchestra that he acknowledges could take years to complete. > He's also > > > > at work on Mani Ratnam's next film, the Hindi/English Guru, and > > > > several Tamil films, almost 20 pending projects in all. > > > > > > > > The evening was presented as part of the Stanford Pan-Asian > Music > > > > Festival, organized by religious studies director Linda Hess > and the > > > > school's department of music and the Asian Religions and > Cultures > > > > Initiative. Jindong Cai, Stanford Symphony Orchestra conductor > and > > > > artistic director of the Stanford Pan-Asian Music Festival, > called > > > > Rahman in his introduction "one of the most celebrated > composers of > > > > our time." > > > > > > > > A talented group of Stanford music students got the once-in-a- > lifetime > > > > chance to perform in front of the composer, and gave warmly > > > > appreciated versions of Tamil and Hindi pieces such as Lagaan's > > > > "Ghanana Ghana." Audience members, too, got a chance to ask > Rahman > > > > questions afterward, about who his influences are (R.D. Burman > and > > > > Madan Mohan), and how he stays fresh ("You do the same thing, > and > > > > people will say, 'Oh God, he's done it again.' I have to follow > a film > > > > like Lagaan with something completely different.") > > > > > > > > He explained how he got his name (the former A.S. Dileep Kumar > changed > > > > his name to A.R. Rahman when he discovered Sufism) in the > 1990s. "I > > > > asked Mani and he said okay. If he'd said no, my name would be > > > > different!" > > > > > > > > Asked by one audience member how he strategizes his career, > Rahman > > > > just laughed. "I didn't plan anything. I leave it to God. He's a > > > > better planner." > > > > > > > > And to a question from Sarrazin on where he's going next, Rahman > > > > smiled and said softly, "Music has no destination. It's > endless. Music > > > > is the thing that unites people. 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