thanx sunil
Wow ! its wonderful... rehman made this bit a hit...... after listening to
this sample this has strengthened my point as said b4 "that does not mean
composers lack originality"..... there is difference btween complete lift &
inspiration....... i can say rehman inspired by these samples & loops but d
creation of rehman's idea of song is magnificent..... whatelse we can say....
nothing but interesting birth of 5 minute song 4m few seconds loop/sample......
it is all intelligence speaks how to develop d idea...... in film directors
language they say how they developed d story & screen play with a small spark
of an idea...... this is different 4m a movie having a similar story...... if
any other junior composer cld get a trak resembling to munbe vaa... 4m any
other hiphop album containing lines like rangoli chorus etc. atleast to 50% of
rehman's song i agree it is a lift..........
Sunil VG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm attaching what MIGHT be the sample this composer ;-) is talking
about. Have a listen and judge for yourself. For those of you who cannot see
the attachment, I've copied the same to the files section:
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/files/
Its called "da_nu_rnb_hiphop2.mp3".
Regards,
Sunil
On 7/30/07, shahul hameed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually Mr
Krishna.. thou u point out saying u werent against Rahman using de sample, what
was de need for such a subject line? "Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a
sample!" I guess this is what has triggered so many responses..
On 7/30/07, Krishna None < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Are you guys stupid or what???
Whenever did i said that it was dumb or stupid from A. R. Rahman to use these
samplea???
When did I said that no MD's or producers / dj's uses these samples???
When did I said that nobody may use samples?
When did I said I'm the only composer who uses samples?
When did I said that it is wrong to use samples?
guys guys, girls girls...you gauys are not understanding my e-mail, i didn't
wrote anything wron in my e-mail!
Pls read me e-mail carefully again before replying!!!!
I wrote in my email :"I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are
beats or
sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R.
Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his
music arts."
Sinds I get dumb reactions from people I would say: I will not upload the
files untill someone read my e-mail with fairness.
I'm a big fan of A. R. Rahman, that means that I'm not against A. Rahman
using samples!!!! READ MY E-MAIL!!!!
Since there are rights on the samples, i may not upload these files. If I do
then I'm in violation wih these rights!
I can say: Search the internet for: "Ueberschall - Da nu RnB. Hip Hop Drum
Loops & Samples". The sample (map) which sounded like Munbe Munbe Vaa is
called: Hip Harp.
See for yourself.
These are samples from Ueberschall, you can buy these and uses them for
you're own.
Sorry I can't upload these files cause of violoation etc. etc. etc.
A BIG A. R. RAHMAN FAN WHO IS NOT AGAINST USING SAMPLES (MADE FOR MUSIC)!!!
Krishna
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From: Ashwin Kamath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT)
I agree with Kunal....Would you say that because somebody had the "Theen
taal" (tabla) in a song...nobody else can use it. If somebody else used it,
would you actually be shocked. Its just a sequence of beats / notes. The true
gift would be using it a place where it sounds not just good but great.
----- Original Message ----
From: Kunal Rajan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:49:05 AM
Subject: [arr] Re: Munbe Munbe Vaa is a complete lift of a sample!
People make Loop CDs and sample banks specially for composers to use in their
music. I dont think there is any composer in the world who has worked without
samples and loops. When it is made specially for them... why not use it ???
Kunal.
Posted by: "chup_ssshhh" chup_ssshhh@ hotmail.com chup_ssshhh Sun Jul 29,
2007 6:04 am (PST) A silent user here (but also a composer),
Hi guys and girls,
Me as a omposer do use lots of samples, not in all my music. Ofcourse
I'm not the only one who uses these samples.
Last month I bought a sample bank: Uberschall - Da Nu RnB, Hip Hop
Drum Loops and Samples.
I was really glad hearing these awesome samples....till suddenly I
heard a simmilarity between a sample song called "Hip Harp" and Munbe
Munbe Vaa!!!
I was really shocked, it was like A. R. Rahman used these samples but
played them in adifferent range! it sounds like a complete lift! Even
the beat measure of this sample is a clear copy of the rythm used by
A. R. Rahman in "Munbe Munbe Vaa"!!!
I like you guys to hear these samples, but pls give me a good link
where i can upload these files.
Warning : DO NOT GET SHOCKED HEARING THESE SAMPLES, THESE SAMPLES ARE
MADE BEFORE A. R. RAHMAN'S "MUNBE MUNBE VAA"!!!
I can say, that everybody uses samples, wheter they are beats or
sounds. Every producers gets inspired by some samples. Even A. R.
Rahman, the biggist composer of these times, uses samples in his
music arts.
Do not reply stupidness untill you heared these samples, otherwise you
are fooling yourself and others. First listen to the sample and then
give you're opinion.
Sorry for my bad English:P
Krishna
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