Krish Bro,
    I completely agree with you...This loudness is sometimes very irritating.
My fav song "In Lamhon ke daman mein (JA)"...when the chorus hits the peak, its 
a torture to hear wid high volume..
   I love dis song so much..but its a pain to decrease the volume everytime wen 
the chorus part comes..
ARR is the one who introduced Quality sound to Indians...
I think its the fault of music companies :( :(
Whoever is responsile for this mistake should take care of this issue next 
time.. as its a very serios problem arising from past few releases!!!

ARR tracks are gems...should be taken extra care while handling!!!

~Love Music Love Life
  Neetika Raina


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sreekrishnan R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:48:23 PM GMT +05:30 Chennai, Kolkata, 
Mumbai, New Delhi
Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj

am I the only one disappointed by the increasing trend in recent ARR albums to 
be loud?


No.. I'm also here..

All the songs of ARR's recent Albums are touching the Peak level in the Sound 
Forge as well as Nuendo Softwares though it is not jarring or causing any 
distortion. I was thinking about it when I heard the Sakkarakatti Songs in 
Sound Forge. Thought it happened because AR's songs were missing H. Shridhar 
Sir in the crew. But in Yuvvraaj he's credted and he has done the entire Mixing 
and Mastering (with Sivakumar Sir). Still all the songs hit the Peak level. I 
think this is bit a serious issue on a Sound Engineer's point of view. Because 
AR's each and every song is like a reference book for a Sound Engineer.. I 
learned and am learning a lot of things by analysing his old and latest mixes.
I think some kind of magic is missing in the mixes of some songs.
I said before that this is just a Sound Engineer's point of view. Apart from 
these kind of some minute things , his songs are real real gems for the 
audience. full satisfaction guaranteed ! I always believe that one could not 
enjoy his songs if he keeps on looking and digging out such small small things. 
But professionally we've to admit this.
Hope AR will take care of it in future and avoid touching the peak levels of 
his songs. :-)

Thanks.


-- 
regards.. 
 
Krish..
His Music ~ My Mother Tongue 
 

--- On Wed, 22/10/08, Ramesh R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Ramesh R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 22 October, 2008, 10:05 AM










    
            Why is it that every time there's a less-than-favorable review of 
an ARR album there are a number of fans waiting to attack the reviewer? 
"Tootsie pop"? "Arrogant man"? Do you really need all the name calling?
A review, aside from attempting some sort of analysis or critique, is just one 
person's opinion of how he or she reacts to something. Obviously we all react 
differently or else this would be a boring place. Reading Joginder Tuteja's 
review it looks like he is less than impressed because he finds some of the 
tracks very situational and he was expecting something bigger. That's his 
reaction and that's perfectly fine. You can choose to disagree with his 
viewpoint and have your own. That's fine too. 
On the other hand every Tom, Dick and Harry who mentions something about the 
album
 in a blog gets posted here. A lot of these posts sound like the gushings of a 
fanboy with hardly any critique or analysis. Why is it that such posts are 
treated as great reviews even if they lack a cogent argument or any substance 
at all?

Gopal & Vithur,
  Could you folks excercise some restraint when you post blog articles 
especially about album reviews? By all means do post something if you think 
that it attempts some form of critique. But please spare us the ramblings. Or 
perhaps,  just post a link to the blog and let folks who're interested check it 
out if they're interested.

Back to Yuuvraaj...
There are a number of things that bother me about Yuuvraaj (and other recent 
ARR works) but for now... am I the only one disappointed by the increasing 
trend in recent ARR albums to be loud? Here's what I see when I load the clips 
in Audacity-
http://i36.tinypic. com/2eksooz. jpg
Check the Youtube post on Loudness War for the context.


RR

----- Original Message ----
From: Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 11:22:40 AM
Subject: [arr] Re: Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj










    
            Tootsie Pop only rates albums based on how mnay chartbuster hits 
(his 

distorted definition of one) it has.  This has ZERO credibility for 

me.



--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, "Vinod Raju" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>

> 

> The review seems to have been taken off the site.

> 

> The link says "No review".

> 

> 

> -Vinod

> 

> 

> 

> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, ali ahad <mindblower2003@ > 

> wrote:

> >

> > he do like YUVVRAAJ ...but don't want to admit ....arrogant man

> > 

> > --- On Mon, 10/20/08, en_arvind <en_arvind@> wrote:

> > From: en_arvind <en_arvind@>

> > Subject: [arr] Tutu's Take- Indiafm Review of Yuvraaj

> > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com

> > Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 6:45 PM

> > 

> > I will resist passing my personal take and comments on Joginder 

> >  Tuteja's reviews as nothing but @#$%%^&* will be there but here 

> it is 

> >  for YUVRAAJ....

> > 

> > http://www.bollywoo dhungama. com/movies/ musicreview/ 

> 13391/index. html

> > 

> >  At the beginning of the year, when the list of most anticipated 

> >  tracks of 2008 was being compiled, Yuvvraaj was one of the first 

> to 

> >  make an entry. And why not? After all, Subhash Ghai and Rahman 

> coming 

> >  together is big enough news, especially since it will be after 9 

> long 

> >  years that the two would be coming together after Taal (Kisna 

had 

> >  Ismail Darbar sharing credits with Rahman). With the film's 

> subject 

> >  being musical, Gulzar saab writing lyrics, Shiamak Davar as the 

> >  choreographer and actors like Anil Kapoor, Salman Khan and 

> Katrina 

> >  Kaif coming together, Yuvraaj was always going to be the magnum 

> opus 

> >  of 2008!

> > 

> >  So does the music of Yuvraaj meet the mammoth expectation one 

has 

> >  carried for almost a year? The answer is No and Yes! No, because 

> >  Yuvraaj is certainly not Taal. Forget matching the class of 

Taal, 

> it 

> >  is far away from it when it comes to sheer mass appeal. 

> > 

> >  Write your own music review of Yuvvraaj 

> >  Yes, because if one looks at Yuvraaj as a stand alone product 

and 

> >  doesn't associate big names like Ghai, Rahman, Gulzar and the 

> rest, 

> >  it makes for a fine hearing. The soundtrack isn't bad; it just 

> isn't 

> >  very great, as one had anticipated all this while. 

> > 

> >  Yuvraaj starts on an extremely positive note though. 

Amalgamation 

> of 

> >  Western classical music with Indian melody is done excellently 

by 

> >  A.R. Rahman who creates a mesmerizing 'Tu Meri Dost Hain' which 

> gets 

> >  a Thumbs Up on the first hearing itself. Introducing a new 

singer 

> >  Benny Dayal, Rahman gives him a huge responsibility of singing 

> the 

> >  flagship number of Yuvraaj which has a serene quality to it. 

> Later 

> >  the composer comes along with Shreya Ghoshal behind the mike as 

> well. 

> >  Flowing seamlessly, 'Tu Meri Dost Hain' has a grand orchestra to 

> it 

> >  which should sound even better once merged with the opulent 

> frames 

> >  captured by Ghai. 

> > 

> >  Reminding of the kind of numbers composed by Rahman in the mid-

> >  90s, 'Mastam Mastam' is the next to come which is a fun 

> celebration 

> >  track. Primarily sung by Sonu Nigam with Naresh and Benny being 

> the 

> >  additional voices and Alka Yagnik joining in later, 'Mastam 

> Mastam' 

> >  is situational and could easily pass off as a track for 

children. 

> The 

> >  tune is simple but isn't exciting enough to make you jump with 

> joy. 

> >  Now all depends upon the way Ghai picturises the song and makes 

> it 

> >  engaging enough for audience to be entertained. 

> > 

> >  Beethoven is heard in 'Main Hoon Yuvvraaj' which is mainly a 70 

> >  second's piece where Salman Khan proclaims - 'I am a bad guy'. 

> >  Mouthing a few dialogues in his now-famous accented manner, 

> Salman 

> >  mainly uses this platform for introducing his character. 

> > 

> >  'Tu Muskura' is set in the same mode as 'Tu Meri Dost Hain' when 

> it 

> >  comes to keeping the soothing element intact. This Alka Yagnik 

> sung 

> >  track is easy on ears but doesn't quite come with a power which 

> would 

> >  make it the kind that would become an instant success with one 

> and 

> >  all. Javed Ali joins Alka Yagnik mid-way into the song which 

> almost 

> >  sounds like a lullaby and maintains similar pace and effect from 

> >  start till the finish. Yet again number where a lot would depend 

> upon 

> >  the way it comes across on screen. 

> > 

> >  Subhash Ghai may have promised to incorporate a number in 

Yuvraaj 

> >  which is in a mould similar to that of a 'Fanaa' [Yuva] or 

> a 'Pappu' 

> >  [JTYJN]. However, 'Shano Shano' doesn't really turn out to be 

THE 

> hip-

> >  n-happening number which one would have expected as the tune 

> doesn't 

> >  make you head towards the dance floor even after repeat hearing. 

> A 

> >  number which sees quite a few singers coming together - Sonu 

> Nigam, 

> >  Srinivas Kartik, Timmy, Sunaina, Vivienne Pocha and Tina -

 'Shano 

> >  Shano' is a letdown. 

> > 

> >  A shorter 'remix version' comes at the album's end. Featuring 

> EMBER, 

> >  it has the husky sound of 'Main Main Main Main Yuvvraaj' going 

in 

> the 

> >  background. Now it has to be seen that to what extent does 

Salman 

> >  manage to turn around the fortunes of this song! 

> > 

> >  Reminding of the kind of songs that Bhupinder Singh used to sing 

> in 

> >  the late 70s/early 80s, 'Zindagi' is the next to come. Srinivas 

> >  croons this sad track which has minimal instruments in the 

> background 

> >  and mainly has him occupying the center-stage. A number about 

> >  questioning life around the losses one has seen, this one is yet 

> >  another hardcore situational track which barely manages to pass 

> >  muster. In fact one wonders whether this number, that is almost 

> semi-

> >  classical in appeal, would play in it's entirety in the film 

> since it 

> >  lasts as long as 5 minutes! 

> > 

> >  Wait, there is more to come. The song which follows next, 'Dil 

Ka 

> >  Rishta', is almost 8 minutes long! Seemingly a climax track 

which 

> >  opens with clear inspiration from Beethoven, 'Dil Ka Rishta' 

> appears 

> >  to be a concert in progress with fusion of Indian and Western 

> >  classical. Expect the situation in the film to have a grandeur 

> appeal 

> >  to it, especially with the opening two minutes being entirely 

> >  dedicated to the coming together of various musical instruments 

> and 

> >  chorus (Clinton, Suzanne, Vivieanne Pocha, Naresh, Benny, 

> Blazze). 

> > 

> >  Later Sonu Nigam, Roop Kumar Rathod and A R Rahman come together 

> >  for 'Dil Ka Rishta' which promises to exceed the effect created 

> >  by 'Taal Se Taal Mila' or 'Kahin Aag Lage' from Taal on the 

> screen. 

> >  Yes, there is a grand quality to this song but on the flip side 

> >  doesn't have in it to be sung around the town. At maximum, it 

> would 

> >  make for a good cinematic appeal. 

> > 

> >  'Manmohini Morey' is a fusion classical track which comes with a 

> good 

> >  probability on being filmed on Anil Kapoor. Good, but 

> situational. 

> >  Yet again! 

> > 

> >  Once Yuvvraaj comes to an end, one wonders that which of the 

> songs 

> >  from the album would turn into a chartbuster. And to one's 

> surprise, 

> >  it is hard to pin point on a particular track since Ghai and 

> Rahman 

> >  have mainly come up with the soundtrack that would possibly fuse 

> well 

> >  with the narrative but doesn't really throw a number which would 

> make 

> >  its presence felt from the top. Collectively, the album does 

have 

> >  it's moments as only a song or two don't quite make an 

> impression. 

> >  Celina Jaitley, Golmaal Returns

> > 

> >  At the music stands though, Yuvraaj has a good probability of 

> making 

> >  an early impression since the name Rahman sells. However, don't 

> >  expect a Taal or even Jaane Tu… Ya Jaane Na that had more than 

> just a 

> >  couple of chartbuster hits. 

> > 

> >           

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