None of the earlier songs sounded "outstanding" in first few hearings or first month or year.
It is after the movie gets released, lives off its screen life, is removed from theatres, prizes gets distributed - either won or lost by songs, and the dust gets eventually settled, then we find that some songs have survived and we call them immortal, outstanding. There had been many non-ARR instant hits, with became much more popular than ARR's songs, but they were shortlived and after a few months or a year nobody bothered to listen to them. So, it would not be of any value to declare a song outstanding right now so soon, when even two of the films are yet to be released. -- V On 11/8/2008 10:17 AM India Time, _jemsheed_ wrote: > one of the boring thing in a fans group is supporting the artist even if > he degrades in his quality output and the fans argue it as new things or > new style or innovations.. > ok.. i have a qn here.. > this yr as of now we have JA,SK,JTYJ,ADA,YVR.. > Songs are nice..can somebody tell me(plz honestly) an' in and out > outstanding' song from these albums..yes am comparing the this yrs songs > with his older day's quality outputs.. > > one of the main reason is said by this thread starter. > accept it and letus hope later this may get improved.. > as of now watching the 1 min clip of gajini i feel this also belongs to > the same.. > the synethetic...i dont know the technical terms much ...but i can hear > that and i can feel that.. > > --- On *Sat, 8/11/08, V S Rawat /<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > > From: V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [arr] Do U find those creative percussions missing > nowadays in Sir's arrangement? > To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 12:47 AM > > Yes, Jafar. Agree with you. That is the way it is. ARR is trying > different things now, and that is what fans expect him to do. No point > giving old things again. > > There could be some sacrifices brought by this but that can't be helped. > > 1. One is that I feel that ARR's signature thinggy is becoming less and > less obvious in his songs, in some songs it needs to be searched with a > magnifying glass, it needs to be discussed and argued whether it is > there or not. > > 2. But the good aspect is that the growing period of ARR's music has > almost disappeared or has become very short. > > -- > V > > On 11/7/2008 10:32 PM India Time, _Jafar K_ wrote: > > > I totally disagree. ARR has lost nothing. He is trying different > kind of music everytime and I am enjoying it. > > > > Jafar > > > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, dian hayati <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com > <mailto:diansrk%40yahoo.com>> wrote: > > > >> From: dian hayati <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <mailto:diansrk%40yahoo.com>> > > >> I absolutely agree with you guys. One thing also bothers me. > >> I love Srinivas' voice, very much unique, but singing > >> Zindagi...without that classical music...I feel something > >> missing, not really satisfied with the arrangement, and also > >> with the manmohini... hmm...well, is it just because I'm > >> not too smart to analyze these kind of things, or...I > >> don't know, but please correct me guys if I say > >> something wrong here... > >> > >> > >> AR Rahman has changed my life > >> His great music is another name of Love... > >> > >> Dian Hayati Syamsuir > >> > >> --- On Fri, 11/7/08, Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com > <mailto:purevibz%40yahoo.com>> > >> wrote: > >> > >> From: Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <mailto:purevibz%40yahoo.com>> > >> Subject: Re: [arr] Do U find those creative percussions > >> missing nowadays in Sir's arrangement? > >> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com > <mailto:arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 10:40 AM > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Agreed. Found Yuvraaj's rhythm tracks to be the weakest > >> link in the > >> album. He is also using synth tabla sounds, which is fine > >> by me, but > >> again underscores the diminished use of ethnic percussion > >> in recent > >> works, with exceptions like Khwaja and Azeem from JA. > >> > >> It could be a deliberate attempt by ARR to move away from > >> rhythm based > >> songs to more melody oriented numbers, which I feel has > >> been the > >> strongest trend by ARR recently. His songs this year have > >> been > >> extremely melodious, the most meloodious music out of > >> anyone in India, > >> and for that, I am extremely happy. His melodies and mid > >> range > >> arrangements are just mindblowing, even at the sacrifice of > >> his rhythm > >> tracks, which is just relative to his own previous work. > >> > >> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Syed Quadri > >> <saregamaka@ ...> wrote: > >>> > >>> I fully agree on the poster's comments. May be it > >> is due to > >> relocation of his lieutenants , such as Siva mani, Naveen > >> and host of > >> other musicians already made Mumbai as their homes. Even > >> junior sound > >> engineers like Aditya Modi relocated to Mumbai. Other > >> factors could > >> be immense work load , pressure of deadlines ( Although > >> AR never turn > >> in the work on time.. .watch the recent interview hosted > >> by NDTV and > >> the trio was playing blame game in front of millions > >> of audience , > >> that Ghai was expecting a western classical in two months > >> and AR was > >> due to submit the project for shoot last July ,Gulzar > >> and Ghai belong > >> to two different schools of thought, etc ,etc ). > >>> it is a fact that , one person can not do things > >> single handed. Gone > >> are the days when MDs like Naushad, Madan mohan , > >> Ilyaraja RDB used > >> to oversee all the departments. This is the era where > >> Md's like SEL, > >> VS share their work load as a team and live in > >> tinsel town, stay in > >> touch with the best of people in the industry for PR work. > >> whereby > >> these smart marketing manipulators create negative > >> publicity for AR > >> and happily belonging to the camps controlling the > >> industry. > >>> > >>> --- On Thu, 11/6/08, subhadip_jis <subhadip_jis@ > >> ...> wrote: > >>> From: subhadip_jis <subhadip_jis@ ...> > >>> Subject: [arr] Do U find those creative percussions > >> missing nowadays > >> in Sir's arrangement? > >>> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com > >>> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 1:11 PM > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Guys, I want to share my views on this topic. I was > >> listening to > >>> Rahman Sir's classic compositions from > >> Iruvar-Alaypayithey -Bombay, > >>> also "Thiruda Thiruda" numbers & > >> "FIRE" BGMs. > >>> I think the usual charm of tight percussion units in > >> ARR's songs is no > >>> longer existing nowadays. The kind of minute details > >> we used to get in > >>> every beat of it, may it be "humma humma" or > >> "Thee Thee" or a semi- > >>> classical number like "Radha kaise na > >> jale..." is somewhere missing > >>> nowadays. Even this creative percussion were heard in > >> RDB, (Remember > >>> the bike chasing or killing of minister scene !!!!), > >> also a bit of it > >>> in Jodha Akbar (although he relied upon synthesized > >> beats in "Jashn > >>> Bahara"). > >>> Does it mean Rahman Sir doesn't involve himself > >> much in every section > >>> of a song, rather leave it to young bloods like > >> Krishna Chetan? At > >>> least I personally felt lack of innovative percussion > >> (using unusual > >>> beats & instruments) in last couple of films like > >> "Jaane > >>> Tu..", "Sakkarakatti" , "ADA" > >> & even in "Yuvraj". In "Yuvraj" also > >> he > >>> uses a lot of techno stuffs as backing beats, which > >> just supports the > >>> song by keeping the rhythm but doesn't increase > >> it's beauty. Well > >>> composed numbers like "Tu hi meri dost" or > >> "Manmohini" or "Dil ka > >>> rishta" has a very repeatative & fully > >> synthesized beat which cud have > >>> been taken care of I think, a full orchestral sound is > >> going side by > >>> side (just think of "Thiruda Thiruda") > >>> > >>> Whats ur opinion ????????
