On 4/30/2010 11:56 AM India Time, _pravindersheoran_ wrote: > To be honest the way youngsters are going, Indian values will be a > things of past very soon. >
Exactly. younsters are going en masse the wrong way faster than ever. And that is the exact reason why ARR and others should create such gems reflecting indian values so that at least some youth get a change to know what indian values are and then, to return to their roots. ARR has always given more output for upholding indian values than most of the current generation of MDs. How many "indian" songs Himesh has given, how many Pritam has given, and so on for Anu Malik (of course, sandeshe aate hain was great) and Nadeem Shravan (does any one remember any). But, ARR has a long list of songs vandemataram, jan gan man, and even his totally filmy songs were having social message courtesy PK Mirshra and Mehboob, and such a message in Urvasi was the one that had brought me to ARR the first time (not Roja, unlike most of you) and that bond has never weakened. The definitions of love and emotions changes with time. The shyness and silent suffering sacrificing love of 50s is now a thing of past, so much past that current generations don't even find and message in that shyness and that silence and think that was stupidity of the people of that time to be such shy and such silent and suffering and do sacrifices. That made many sweet and great songs of 50s irrelevant and out of place in today's times. But, global values don't change, motivating someone to do something great doesn't change, patriotism doesn't change, social issues and awareness of them doesn't change. That's why Pradeep's songs of 40s and 50s and 60s are still stirring souls when heard, culminating with all time great patriotic song "ai mere watan ke logo" that was first rendered on 26 January 1963. It has been 47 years and still fresh. Similarly many social issues raised in so many songs of Sahir still remain as relevant as they were at the time of their creation. I think definitions of emotional and love will keep on changing in future and ARR's emotional and love songs will loose their values for future generations. But ARR's socially relevant songs, patriotic songs, etc. will remain as fresh as ever. > And then, only a few like us will just be left with our old > memories and "Kata Kata" song. There are and will be many others silently (less vocally) sending feedback and giving messages. One such feedback/ message is here: http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2010/02/27/india_nominates_sylvester_stallone_de > Meanwhile, Aussie singer/actress Kylie Minogue has been mauled for > her performance of "Chiggy Wiggy," which she sang in the movie > "Blue." The track, written by Abbas Tyrewala, has been named in the > Most Atrocious Lyrics category. Isn't that an odd honor for the costliest and most hyped song ever of bollywood? I think as long as we don't see a Chiggy Wiggy sequels, seems such feedback has reached home and has been accepted and acted upon. It is too early to predict. Let's see what happens if Blue II gets made. -- Rawat > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat<vsra...@...> wrote: >> >> 18 years fan-hood of ARR does have its few points of discord. One >> recent one had meet my utter condemnation of Chiggy-wiggy. >> >> Since then, it has not even a full year, and ARR has given us >> Kata Kata. >> >> And Kata Kata has: -- Chhoto koi devar hoy to chhaati laagiye >> (if there is any younger brother of the husband, keep him close >> to your heart like your own son) >> >> Aur saas sasur ke aadar keeje paanye laagiye e e e (and pay >> respect to father and mother of the husband, touch their feet) >> >> Re jaith jaithani samjhaave to maathe raakhije re (if elder >> brother of husband and his wife teaches something, etch that in >> your mind) >> >> Aur nandan ki saheli jaisi saath raakhiye re, o chori sun, saath >> raakhijo ra (and keep the sisters of husband with you like your >> friends, listen, o girl, keep them with you) -- >> >> A complete contrast the above has with chiggy-wiggy. >> >> Chiggy-wiggy was demeaning women, presenting them as brainless >> objects to be won over by cheap, streetsmart tactics of males >> for their pleasure, all this going contrary to the things that >> ARR stands for. >> >> Kata Kata has suggetions/ instructions/ tips/ prompts that every >> Indian mother tells her Indian daughter on wedding when the >> daughter goes to a new home for the first time - the home of her >> husband. It is holding the key how to keep the family together, >> instead of breaking the bonds and snatching the husband from him >> family and establishing a personal home for herself. >> >> I can feel every Indian buzurg (elder men and women) nodding >> their head in deep-felt approval on hearing it. It is nothing >> new, they themselves have been told the same at their own >> wedding, and they themselves have told the same to their sons >> and daughters at their weddings. It is pure indianness. >> >> And it covers so many aspects of Indian marriages that it is >> like an audio-visual summary of what all happens in Indian >> marriages. groom's male friends are teasing the groom, calling >> him a goat getting sacrificed, brides' female friends are teasing >> the groom giving him "funde" to do physical exercise to build his >> body, ladies of the bride's family are listing the great >> qualities of their daughter (paro se bhi halki hai) while males >> of groom's side teasing their bhabhi (khatti hai), ladies of >> bride's family are pleading to the groom to safeguard and treat >> the bride with respect (bohari lagaiyyo na), pandit ji is having >> his priorities kanya ko bulaao, muhurt nikla ja raha hai, ladies >> of bride's family are abusing and mocking the groom calling him >> of black complexion by negation, comparing him to crow, in hindi >> belt there is a reallife ceremony called gali dena (abusing) >> when ladies of bride's family do use demeaning words in songs to >> mock at groom and his family. >> >> Kudos to ARR and Gulzar saab for creating a song that is going >> to be National Matrimonial Anthem. It is going to be played at >> every marriage hundreds of times, and why not, it have elements >> for every occasion in an Indian marriage. >> >> This song is what ARR himself personifies unlike chiggy-wiggy. >> ARR will be proud to be the creator of this song unlike >> chiggy-wiggy. >> >> Hope comparing Kata Kata with chiggy-wiggy will make the contrast >> clear to you. >> >> Kata Kata redeems Indian values that were inadvertently >> cheapened by Chiggy-Wiggy -- >> >> Related issue: >> >> >> I wonder what is in the song that Narendra Modi disapproved for >> Gujarat. Kata Kata shows that ARR has all the capabilities to >> come with a song full of Indianness, so ARR could come with a >> song full of Gujarat-ness. Even Kata Kata itself represents >> gujarat wedding like any Indian wedding. Instead of outright >> rejecting a song, they should have told ARR individual elements >> that they approve and disapprove of in the song, and let him >> modify according to the feedback. It would have culminated into >> a great song for Gujarat and a treat for music lovers. Sad that >> Narendra Modi acted so high-handedly. >> >> -- Rawat
