I wouldn't think the version of the AR Mid-Tier might matter that much as resources used to drive the mid-tier app is consumed more by the web server and the JSP engine and not so much by the mid-tier application itself. The architecture of the mid-tier application did change over the years that the mid-tier application has evolved but it hasn't really changed so much that the resource required was significantly different. I had heard about the 4MB per concurrent user during the early days of MT, and I would think that would remain the same for the current versions itself including V7 of the MT application.. Joe
----- Original Message ---- From: "Pickering, Christopher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:58:50 AM Subject: Re: Mid Tier 6.3 patch 16 C -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Phillips Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Mid Tier What version are we talking about here? Or does it matter? Thanks, rp ARSList wrote: > I heard 4MB too. However, we have 1GB on a Mid-Tier server (Dual > 2.8Ghz, 1GB RAID 5 Intel) with ASAPI. I have only seen 32 maximum > concurrent users on our IIS web box. It is has 512MB for the Java > startup. Our Mid-Tier seems a little slow. I want to get more ram, but > I need to get more statistics to present to management to procure the memory. > > > > Good luck. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 11:18 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Mid Tier > > > > Hello Chris, > > > > How are you doing. > > > > I don't recall where I had heard this but it was a reliable source. > You should take into account at least 4 MB per concurrent user logged > in on a mid tier server as far as server memory is concerned to use > the Mid-Tier application. > > > Joe D'Souza > > Remedy Developer / Consultant, > > BearingPoint, > > Virginia. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "Pickering, Christopher" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 11:36:37 AM > Subject: Mid Tier > > ** > > Ladies and Gentlemen, > > > > Does anyone have any idea as to how many connections is the maximum > for midtier and to support that maximum, how much memory should be required. > I would prefer a ratio if that is possible. I realize there are many > variables involved, but a best guess would be preferred. > > > > C > > > > Christopher H. Pickering > > Remedy System Administrator > > Premiere Global Services, Inc. > > 100 Tormee Drive > > Tinton Falls, NJ 07712 > > 732.389.3900 X2411/800.333.0568 X2411 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.premiereglobal.com <http://www.premiereglobal.com/> > > <http://www.ptek.com/demos/banners/PGISigBlock.gif> > > > > __20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML > in it___ > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=45083/*http:/advision.webevents.yahoo.com/ > ma > ilbeta> > > __20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML > in it___ > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C71D61.93E90887 > Content-Type: text/html > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > X-Google-AttachSize: 10125 > > ** > <html> > > <head> > <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> > <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered)"> <style> > <!-- > /* Font Definitions */ > @font-face > {font-family:Courier; > panose-1:2 7 4 9 2 2 5 2 4 4;} > @font-face > {font-family:Wingdings; > panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;} > @font-face > {font-family:Tahoma; > panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} > /* Style Definitions */ > p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal > {margin:0in; > margin-bottom:.0001pt; > font-size:12.0pt; > font-family:"Times New Roman";} > a:link, span.MsoHyperlink > {color:blue; > text-decoration:underline;} > a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed > {color:blue; > text-decoration:underline;} > p > {margin-right:0in; > margin-left:0in; > font-size:12.0pt; > font-family:"Times New Roman";} > span.EmailStyle19 > {font-family:Arial; > color:navy;} > @page Section1 > {size:8.5in 11.0in; > margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} > div.Section1 > {page:Section1;} > /* List Definitions */ > ol > {margin-bottom:0in;} > ul > {margin-bottom:0in;} > --> > </style> > > </head> > > <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue> > > <div class=Section1> > > <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I heard 4MB too. However, we have > 1GB on a Mid-Tier server (Dual 2.8Ghz, 1GB RAID 5 Intel) with ASAPI. I > have only seen 32 maximum concurrent users on our IIS web box. It is > has 512MB for the Java startup. Our Mid-Tier seems a little slow. I > want to get more ram, but I need to get more statistics to present to > management to procure the memory.</span></font></p> > > <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p> > > <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Good luck.</span></font></p> > > <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p> > > <div> > > <div class=MsoNormal align=center > style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:center'><font > size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> > > <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> > > </span></font></div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 > face=Tahoma><span > style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</sp > an></font></b><font > size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> > Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On > Behalf Of </span></b>Joe DeSouza<br> <b><span > style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, December 11, 2006 > 11:18 AM<br> > <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<br> <b><span > style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Mid > Tier</span></font></p> > > </div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times > New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> > > <div> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=1 > face=Courier><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Courier'>Hello > Chris,</span></font></p> > > </div> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=1 > face=Courier><span > style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Courier'> </span></font></p> > > </div> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=1 > face=Courier><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Courier'>How are > you doing.</span></font></p> > > </div> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=1 > face=Courier><span > style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Courier'> </span></font></p> > > </div> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=1 > face=Courier><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Courier'>I don't > recall where I had heard this but it was a reliable source. You should > take into account at least 4 MB per concurrent user logged in on a mid > tier server as far as server memory is concerned to use the Mid-Tier > application.<br> </span></font></p> > > </div> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 > face=Courier><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Courier'>Joe > D'Souza</span></font></p> > > </div> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 > face=Courier><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Courier'>Remedy > Developer / Consultant,</span></font></p> > > </div> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 > face=Courier><span > style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Courier'>BearingPoint,</span></fon > t></p> > > </div> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 > face=Courier><span > style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Courier'>Virginia.</span></font></ > p> > > </div> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left: > .5in'><font size=1 face=Courier><span > style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Courier'> </span></font></p> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times > New Roman"><span > style='font-size:12.0pt'>----- Original Message ----<br> > From: "Pickering, Christopher" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><br> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<br> > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 11:36:37 AM<br> > Subject: Mid Tier<br> > <br> > ** </span></font></p> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times > New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Ladies and > Gentlemen,</span></font></p> > > </div> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times > New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> > > </div> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times > New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Does anyone have any idea as > to how many connections is the maximum for midtier and to support that > maximum, how much memory should be required. I would prefer a > ratio if that is possible. I realize there are many variables > involved, but a best guess would be preferred.</span></font></p> > > </div> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times > New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> > > </div> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times > New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>C</span></font></p> > > </div> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times > New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> > > </div> > > <div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times > New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Christopher H. > Pickering</span></font></p> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times > New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Remedy System > Administrator</span></font></p> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 > face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Premiere > Global Services, Inc.</span></font></p> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 > face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>100 Tormee > Drive</span></font></p> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 > face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Tinton > Falls, NJ 07712</span></font></p> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 > face=Arial><span > style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>732.389.3900 > X2411/800.333.0568 X2411</span></font></p> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 > face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a > href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > target="_blank">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a></span></font></p> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 > face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a > href="http://www.premiereglobal.com/";; > target="_blank">www.premiereglobal.com</a> > </span></font></p> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3 > face="Times New Roman"><span > style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'><img > border=0 width=278 height=117 > src="http://www.ptek.com/demos/banners/PGISigBlock.gif";></span></font> > </b></p> > > </div> > > <p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span > style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times > New Roman"><span > style='font-size:12.0pt'>__20060125_______________________This posting > was submitted with HTML in it___</span></font></p> > > </div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=1 > face=Courier><span > style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Courier'> </span></font></p> > > </div> > > </div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times > New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> > > <div class=MsoNormal align=center > style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:center'><font > size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> > > <hr size=1 width="100%" align=center> > > </span></font></div> > > <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times > New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Everyone is raving about <a > href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=45083/*http:/advision.webevents.yahoo > .com/mailbeta">the all-new Yahoo! 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