As Remedy administrators, what do you all feel that Remedy specifically
does that could not be efficiently developed using Oracle programming
tools? 

<Reply> ARServer and it's "Full Picture of Features" can do so much,
that it is tough to conceive what it "cannot do". Let us take one very
simple, but entirely complex component of ARS that most people take for
granted and is overlooked in "port this to a custom application":

** BUSINESS TIME CALCULATIONS **

This very simple built in component will scare even the most talented
programmer, regardless of the coding language!!

As a cost analysis test, take just the BTC Chapter(s) from the various
PDF's and ask the Oracle team "How long, and how much?". (Multiple
start/stop times during the day, time-zone offset, and holidays to
consider! Groups, Individuals, etc OH MY!

You also need to consider the things that ARS can do that you are NOT
doing!

LDAP Integration for Read/Write? Why not automate Windows account
creation! That saves real human $

Any DB Integration (view forms)

API Programming (C, Java, .Net, ...)

Free web interface...

In a total TCO, ARSystem is actually very inexpensive compared to many
of the other systems!!
</Reply>

What are some of the things you all are doing with AR and Remedy
Helpdesk that I might consider implementing or enhancing?

<Reply>
I don't want to sound off base, but change your "Help Desk" mode of
thinking, to a "Service Desk / Service Provider" organization. Yes, part
of what you do is the "find / fix" (Incident Management), probably some
form of issue monitoring and trending (Problem Management), probably
some form if user account maintenance (Change Management), probably some
form of user asset information control (Asset Management / CMDB),
probably some form of Reporting and Trending of Service Quality (Service
Level Agreements & BO/Crystal Reporting)...

Yes are Remedy User licenses kind of costly, Yes, however if you
restructure with the thinking of "Automation" and "Service Provisioning"
you will be in a much better place to view TCO of the application that
you utilize. As I keep telling managers here, "Define your Service you
provide and we will Sell it to the customer" (so to say). For example,
one recent topic was windows account creation.
* Many Processes not being followed 100%
* Deviances between Service Locations
* Time Delays of creating accounts

So, we calculated that on average 3 groups were required in different
organizations to create one simple standard windows account.
1) NT Group to create account
2) Filer group to create home drive (Requires account setup for SID /
user name)
3). NT Group to link Home Drive to Account
4). Exchange Team to create mailbox
5). Service Desk to train customer (well, we cannot automate this :(
YET! )

Guess what? This is the latest Automation Project that is currently
under development. For 6 weeks development & testing, it will pay for
itself within an estimated 6 months!

So, ask yourself the question, "How do I want to be doing business in 6
months, 1 year, 2 years" and ask the "ARSystem" question again based
upon your long term strategy.

Also ask your "XYZ Development Team" some questions as well. But
remember this additional tid-bit-o-information. Do you have your system
COMPLETELY DOCUMENTED? While you might have training guides, or simple
documents describing system flow, you might be amazed at just how long
it will take you to provide a "Complete Specifications Requirement" to
the development team so they can Scope the project correctly. (Much less
the weeks of meetings so they understand what you wrote!) If your
specifications requirements are not rock solid, you will be in "feature
creep" and the end result normally under those conditions is a system
that is buggy and does not do what you need / expect.
</Reply>


Thanks-n-advance; 
HDT Platform Incident / Problem Manager & Architect 
Robert Molenda 
IT OS PA 
Tel: +1 408 501 6310 
Fax: +1 408 501 2410 
Mobile: +1 408 472 8097 
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Quality begins with your actions.


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Terhune
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 8:27 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Some help regarding Remedy usage

I have been using Remedy Helpdesk here since about 1998.  Right now we
use Remedy to document trouble issues, notify the techs responsible
for fixing an issue, and then subsequently documenting their fix to
the problem.  I run reports from time to time to see how we are doing.

But I have been thinking that perhaps these functions could be best
accomplished by our Oracle application development group in house.  We
have a pretty large application development group who create
applications on top of Oracle and they are very talented folks.

I am primarily concerned with how much using Remedy costs our computer
services department.  The cost for support, and the cost for adding
users to the system just seems too high to justify our current usage.
I have thought numerous times about expanding the system to
incorporate other entities on our campus, but our Oracle developers
are able to take care of the other departments on campus at a more
competitive cost.

However, it is not my intention to post a gripe about Remedy costs.

I would rather figure out ifI am doing wrong as far as system
utilization.

As Remedy administrators, what do you all feel that Remedy
specifically does that could not be efficiently developed using Oracle
programming tools?  What are some of the things you all are doing with
AR and Remedy Helpdesk that I might consider implementing or
enhancing?

Thanks,
Brad Terhune
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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