I did find something interesting - the time it takes our test environment to 
load definitions is 2 minutes - in prod, it's 9+ minutes.

We'll need to look at the database performance next I think - those two load 
times should be very close to the same in the ideal world.

William Rentfrow
wrentf...@stratacominc.com
Office: 715-204-3061 or 701-232-5697x25
Cell: 715-498-5056

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Kelly Logan
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 1:08 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Ever increasing AR server start up times

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Email and other transactional queues may be read during startup. If they aren't 
cleared out regularly, the increasing numbers of transactional entries may 
account for increasing delays in startup. You may also want to check any fast 
running escalations that might be querying and acting based on forms with 
growing numbers of entries.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 9:35 AM, William Rentfrow 
<wrentf...@stratacominc.com<mailto:wrentf...@stratacominc.com>> wrote:
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Platform: Linux VM's, 2 servers in the server groups, running Remedy 9.01 
against a remote Oracle database.

So - we have a large number of users (500, give or take) and enter many 
incidents every day.  I haven't pulled incident counts for a while but I'm sure 
we've got at least a couple of million.

We have 4 environments - Development, Test, Customer test/training, and 
Production.

In the first 3 server start time is nearly identical - right around the 7 
minute mark.  The secondary server comes up slightly faster.

In production the server start times keep getting longer.  Last time I checked 
it the time was 15 minutes - then 17, and now just about 20.  This is during 
off hours with no users online and nothing else running that would affect it.  
During the day it can be even slower.

We had seen this same thing before in another separate production version of 
Remedy 7.6.04 - the startup times were as long as 45 minutes just for the AR 
server to complete starting up - this is without any real errors or problems, 
with fast connection speeds.

My question is - why? My understanding has always been that the AR server 
caches all workflow/forms on startup, but that amount of data is relatively 
static.  Is it caching something else tied to user data that is not advertised? 
 I haven't yet pulled in our DBA performance crew to look at the startup calls 
- I thought I'd start here first.

And to be clear - there's no timeouts anywhere, no errors, nothing - it's a 
clean start...that keeps taking longer and longer.

William Rentfrow
wrentf...@stratacominc.com<mailto:wrentf...@stratacominc.com>
Office: 715-204-3061<tel:715-204-3061> or 701-232-5697x25<tel:701-232-5697x25>
Cell: 715-498-5056<tel:715-498-5056>

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