Radhika,

I’m unable to find the defect now, I just emailed back on my support ticket to 
find out what’s going on and if they gave me the wrong defect ID, when I hear 
back I’ll let you know.

I’ll share the case details I opened.

Subject: Parent Group Members Unable to Modify Tickets for Child Groups

Description: We setup a Parent Group following the instructions here: 
https://docs.bmc.com/docs/ars91/en/using-a-parent-group-for-permissions-inheritance-609073717.html
And then here: 
https://docs.bmc.com/docs/ars91/en/controlling-access-to-requests-for-hierarchical-groups-609073689.html#Controllingaccesstorequestsforhierarchicalgroups-82480
This is on the HPD:Help Desk form. Members of the Parent Group are unable to 
modify tickets without receiving this error:
"You do not have the authority to modify incident, """INC000003459208""". You 
must be a member or an associate member of either the owner group (<group 
name>) or the assigned group (<group name>). (ARERR 1291018)"


We went back and forth on this for a while until they realized the Parent 
Groups permissions were not effectively trickling down like the documentation 
says it should and they were going to fix it for 19.02.

I’ll send an update once I hear back from BMC.

Levi


From: ARSList <arslist-boun...@arslist.org> On Behalf Of Narayanan, Radhika
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 9:06 PM
To: ARSList <arslist@arslist.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Question about parent groups

Hi,

Can you please share the description of defect id SW00552883 on parent groups?

Thanks
Radhika

From: ARSList <arslist-boun...@arslist.org<mailto:arslist-boun...@arslist.org>> 
On Behalf Of Lippincott, Levi (OMA-GIS)
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 5:03 AM
To: ARSList <arslist@arslist.org<mailto:arslist@arslist.org>>
Subject: Re: Question about parent groups

Parent Groups are not working the way they are supposed to there is an open 
defect on this I reported and is being worked on.

SW00552883

I'm told it will be resolved in 19.02.
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2019, at 5:23 PM, Fawver, Dustin 
<faw...@mail.etsu.edu<mailto:faw...@mail.etsu.edu>> wrote:
LJ,

I had not considered that because I’m not at all familiar with it.  I was 
concerned at the time about having to update the group names on user profiles 
(a custom form), “Assigned to Group” field on tickets, string values in 
workflow and such.  I didn’t want things to break.  Amazingly enough, nothing 
broke, aside from these field accessibility issues.  As of now, I’m getting 
around this issue by adding folks to the old group.  Management would like for 
those old names to be removed as soon as I can find a feasible way of doing so.

Another factor that came into play is that when these groups were created eons 
ago, their group IDs were < 1000.  That range is now in the BMC restricted 
airspace.  I felt it best to have the new group IDs within the acceptable 
range.  I was thinking that if I also changed the group IDs for the old groups 
as well as the names, that would definitely meant having to touch the forms.

I hope this makes sense.
Thanks!
Dustin Fawver
Sr. Help Desk Technician
Information Technology Services

P: 423-439-4648
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From: ARSList <arslist-boun...@arslist.org<mailto:arslist-boun...@arslist.org>> 
On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 6:04 PM
To: ARSList <arslist@arslist.org<mailto:arslist@arslist.org>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Question about parent groups

Dustin,
I know this doesn't answer your question, but did you consider using the 
DataWizard to actually change the names instead of creating a whole new 
architecture?

On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 3:59 PM Fawver, Dustin 
<faw...@mail.etsu.edu<mailto:faw...@mail.etsu.edu>> wrote:
Greetings!

Management wanted me to change the name of some groups, some majorly and some 
not so much.  So I created the new groups and made them the parent of the 
respective old group.  According to 
https://docs.bmc.com/docs/itsm91/hierarchical-groups-using-a-parent-group-for-permission-inheritance-608490644.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.bmc.com_docs_itsm91_hierarchical-2Dgroups-2Dusing-2Da-2Dparent-2Dgroup-2Dfor-2Dpermission-2Dinheritance-2D608490644.html&d=DwMGaQ&c=Ftw_YSVcGmqQBvrGwAZugGylNRkk-uER0-5bY94tjsc&r=DnVIGSEzlRIXfZATPlRnwApWkmEhQz97sCzMg1WKoKg&m=EJizdLriltgwcJGGOBPJTIx6r4MedvpoG1DOjrE2nhA&s=WmsTnDQfD6WNorch3vg1pHOadl_MDQHAOgHa1qaXMUA&e=>,
 it says that all permissions assigned to a child group are passed on to its 
parent group.  However, what I’m seeing is that if a user account is a member 
of the parent group but not the child group, some elements of certain forms are 
inaccessible for that user account.

I was expecting that parent groups would be able to access things that the 
child groups can access.  Isn’t it supposed to work that way, or am I going to 
have to touch the forms and fields in Dev Studio and adjust permissions?
Thanks!
Dustin Fawver
Sr. Help Desk Technician
Information Technology Services

P: 423-439-4648
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