I think that's probably a good part of it, James. So it's up to you as to which party needs to make the necessary adjustments.
Rick -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:36 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer I maintain that if an Arslist member ("A candidate/ An applicant") reads one of my posts and has a question about a job I would expect that they would contact me off-list (from experience this often happens and from my point of view goes someway to demonstrate someone's interest levels as those that aren't interested have a tendency in my opinion to waste time arguing or posting obtuse remarks on to the Arslist). This is simple recruitment methodology! I wonder if there might be a difference in the expectations of Arslist members from country-to-country?! -----Original Message----- From: Rick Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 15:26 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer James, I'm not saying you're right or you're wrong. But while you have a right to ask for certain practices to be followed when dealing with your company, you must understand that your customers have the right to have different expectations and levels of information than the ones you prefer. Successful companies seek ways to meet their customers' needs, because if they don't, their competitors will. You have been given the gift of criticism here - one you would not receive in a less interactive media. I might suggest that you consider how to use it to your advantage. It seems to me that there's a potential benefit to you to provide information that would lead more people to respond to your job posts. If you think that your current policies are working just fine and you want to stick with them, you are, of course, entitled to do that - it's your business. But if I'm right, how would adjusting your policies to better serve your customers harm anyone? Rick -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 6:42 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer Daniel, Reposting a job does not necessarily mean that the initial post has been completely unsuccessful. I would look to repost any role on the basis that there has been a small cooling off period between that and the prior post. However members should understand that there are no pre-set terms that an Arslist Recruiter member must adhere to. If there were, such terms might have set out the rules for recruiter reposts and perhaps the level of detail a recruiter "must" show in their post to the Arslist. Members should also understand that a job post will only ever show limited information and should they wish to know more they should contact the recruiter direct (initially by email followed by a phone call). I would consider this the most appropriate and professional response/ method to discuss further details such as salary and customer specifics rather than what I believe to be unhelpful and negative posts to the lists. Regards James -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Bloom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2007 12:31 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Whilst it would be preferable if no one were ever obtuse, they sometimes are. True that it is not always effective communication. There is a long standing debate between consultants and recruiters about how much detail should be in job posts. Recruiters need to be careful that no one poaches their positions or people, and consultants like to know what they are getting into before they start sending in resumes and revealing a lot of information and possibly loosing their current positions. In general, if a post is on topic, we allow great degrees of obtuseness and simply bad grammer or language use, and even really really simple questions. One can choose to ignore them. This post is obtuse, yet I suspect has made my point. .... Daniel p.s. please wait a week or so before posting Singapore again, and consider why it hasn't been successful. I think your first post for the job was on January 31st -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tobin Sent: March 28, 2007 4:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Permanent Remedy Developer - Singapore Jarl, thanks for suggesting to Tyrone/ the List the most practical and obvious course of action. Those that are genuinely interested do, have and will contact me to ask details such as salary, it is a shame that a "small" number of List members need to post somewhat obtuse messages. ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"