I would have to second this endorsement! We have used ColumnIT for
support for just under 3 years now. I even was at there support center
in a training class when we had a bit problem and they worked on it for
most of the day with my backup until we got the problem solved.

Dan Caissie
United Natural Foods, Inc

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Subject: Re: New Support Policy?

Here's another endorsement...but for ColumnIT.  We switched to them late
last year and I have to say that the change has been noticeable from our
end.  In the last year we had support from BMC, the quality of
assistance
had been uneven at best: sometimes getting support staff who was pretty
knowledgeable, and other times getting support staff who seemed to have
been a recent "grad" of the Admin class that would provide what appeared
to
be canned responses to questions (in one case the response did not
directly
answer the question posed...after repeated attempts for a response on
point
I had to go to management to get the information I was seeking).
Naturally, I had no idea what we were getting into by engaging Column.
I
have to say I've been pretty pleased.  They have been responsive; they
don't rely on the crutch of "send us your log files"; they call back; if
need be they will set up a WebEx session and walk through various steps
to
troubleshoot a problem (I had them on for an hour and a half in one
instance...they were very patient in their approach).  Overall, we've
been
happy.

Joseph Kasell
Network Management Integrator
Telecommunications Division
Navy Federal Credit Union
Vienna, Virginia



 

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Now that is a 'customer' endorsement.  The kind that counts.  Not only
are
they paying, but they are using!  Don't get caught up in the partner
sell
jobs.  This is the type of information you need to base your choices on.

Susan


On 4/19/07, Ben Cantatore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> **
> I would recommend TuringSMI support at this point and time.  I've been
> working with them since October 2006.  My first opinion of them was
what
=
the
> hell did my boss get us into.  I was used to the excellent support I
used=
 to
> get from BMC, coupled with the fact that ITSM was (and still is) buggy
an=
d
> relatively few people were familiar, much less expert in it.  Since
those
> early days, Turing has hired some quality individuals (many familiar
name=
s
> from ARSlist) and I believe worked on their internal communications.
I
> still think they have a bit more growing pains to work out but they've
do=
ne
> an execellent job of turning around their support.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   *"Wilson, Bruce B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*
> Sent by: "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)" <
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
>
> 04/18/2007 02:10 PM   Please respond to
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>
>    To
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG  cc
>   Subject
> New Support Policy?
>
>
>
>
> **
> The trail is becoming more twisted=85
>
> Apparently, when you now call the BMC support center with a new issue,
yo=
u
> no longer speak to a support technician.
> Instead, you speak to someone who takes some cursory notes and creates
a
> ticket for you.
> Basically, it is the same thing as if you were to go online via Remedy
> support and create your own ticket.
>
> I remember previous to this, you got someone who could not speak very
goo=
d
> English and would attempt to solve your problem with the limited
knowledg=
e
> they had and would then TEXT MESSAGE the BMC support engineer you
previou=
sly
> were able to speak directly to.
>
> Add the fact that the on-line Remedy knowledge base is incredibly slow
to
> search and retrieve and you basically complete the poor support.
>
> We are paying thousands and thousands of dollars for incredibly poor
> support that seems to continuously get worse.
> What is next?
>
>
> I am seriously considering utilizing a non-BMC service center for
support=
.
> I am told at one vendor, the technicians go through a certification
> program.
> You get the same person each time you call so they get to become
familiar
> with you.
> Does anyone have any good (or bad) experiences with non-BMC service
cente=
r
> vendors?
>
> Sorry for venting, but enough is enough!
>
>
> Bruce Wilson
> C&S Remedy Administrator
> Norfolk Southern Corporation
> Atlanta, GA
>
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coun=
ts.&nbsp; Not only are they paying, but they are using!&nbsp; Don&#39;t
get=
 caught up in the partner sell jobs.&nbsp; This is the type of
information
=
you need to base your choices on.&nbsp;=20
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Susan<br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 4/19/07, <b
class=3D"gmail_sendername">=
Ben Cantatore</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
">Ben.Cantato=
[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN:
0px
0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">** <br><font
face=3D"sans-serif"=
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&nb=
sp;I&#39;ve been working with them since October 2006. &nbsp;My first
opini=
on of them was what the hell did my boss get us into. &nbsp;I was used
to
t=
he excellent support I used to get from BMC, coupled with the fact that
ITS=
M was (and still is) buggy and relatively few people were familiar, much
le=
ss expert in it. &nbsp;Since those early days, Turing has hired some
qualit=
y individuals (many familiar names from ARSlist) and I believe worked on
th=
eir internal communications. &nbsp;I still think they have a bit more
growi=
ng pains to work out but they&#39;ve done an execellent job of turning
arou=
nd their support.
</font> <br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
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<tr valign=3D"top">
<td width=3D"40%"><font face=3D"sans-serif" size=3D"1"><b>&quot;Wilson,
Bru=
ce B&quot; &lt;<a onclick=3D"return
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
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href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
target=3D"_blank">[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RP.COM</a>
&gt;</b> </font><br><font face=3D"sans-serif" size=3D"1">Sent by:
&quot;Act=
ion Request System discussion list(ARSList)&quot; &lt;<a
onclick=3D"return
=
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href=3D"mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG";
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target=3D"_blank">
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG</a>&gt;</font>=20
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<div align=3D"center"><font face=3D"sans-serif" size=3D"1">Please
respond
t=
o<br><a onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href=3D"ma=
ilto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG"
target=3D"_blank">arslist@ARSLIST.ORG</a></font><=
/div></td>
</tr></tbody></table><br></p>
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size=3D"1">To</font></div>
<td><font face=3D"sans-serif" size=3D"1"><a onclick=3D"return
top.js.OpenEx=
tLink(window,event,this)" href=3D"mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG";
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ank">arslist@ARSLIST.ORG</a></font>=20
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iv>
<td><font face=3D"sans-serif" size=3D"1">New Support
Policy?</font></td></t=
d></tr></td></td></tr></td></td></tr></tbody></table><br>
<table>
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<td>
<td></td></td></tr></tbody></table><br></td>
<td><p></p></td></td></tr></tbody></table>
<div><span class=3D"e" id=3D"q_1120b28bf403bf12_1"><br><br><br><font
size=
=3D"3">** </font><br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080"
size=3D"2">The
=
trail is becoming more twisted=85</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"
color=3D"=
#000080" size=3D"2">
&nbsp;</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080"
size=3D"2">Apparen=
tly, when you now call the BMC support center with a new issue, you no
long=
er speak to a support technician.</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"
color=3D"=
#000080" size=3D"2">
Instead, you speak to someone who takes some cursory notes and creates a
ti=
cket for you.</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080"
size=3D"2">=
Basically, it is the same thing as if you were to go online via Remedy
supp=
ort and create your own ticket.
</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080"
size=3D"2">&nbsp;</font>=
 <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">I remember
previous
=
to this, you got someone who could not speak very good English and would
at=
tempt to solve your problem with the limited knowledge they had and
would
t=
hen TEXT MESSAGE the BMC support engineer you previously were able to
speak=
 directly to.
</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080"
size=3D"2">&nbsp;</font>=
 <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">Add the fact that
th=
e on-line Remedy knowledge base is incredibly slow to search and
retrieve
a=
nd you basically complete the poor support.
</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080"
size=3D"2">&nbsp;</font>=
 <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">We are paying
thousa=
nds and thousands of dollars for incredibly poor support that seems to
cont=
inuously get worse.
</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">What is
next?=
</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080"
size=3D"2">&nbsp;</font>=
 <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">&nbsp;</font>
<br><f=
ont face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">
I am seriously considering utilizing a non-BMC service center for
support.<=
/font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">I am told
at
o=
ne vendor, the technicians go through a certification program.</font>
<br><=
font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">
You get the same person each time you call so they get to become
familiar
w=
ith you.</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080"
size=3D"2">Does
=
anyone have any good (or bad) experiences with non-BMC service center
vendo=
rs?
</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080"
size=3D"2">&nbsp;</font>=
 <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">Sorry for
venting,
b=
ut enough is enough!</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080"
size=
=3D"2">&nbsp;</font> <br>
<font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">&nbsp;</font>
<br><font
f=
ace=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">Bruce Wilson</font> <br><font
fa=
ce=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">C&amp;S Remedy
Administrator</fon=
t> <br><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000080" size=3D"2">
Norfolk Southern Corporation</font> <br><font face=3D"Arial"
color=3D"#0000=
80" size=3D"2">Atlanta, GA</font>=20
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