David, We have the same setup, though we are using MS SQL on a clustered SAN. The Midtier, ARServer and AREmail all run on a Dell Poweredge 1650. It's been this way for the past 3 years. Before that even the MS SQL server was on the same box but the DB had a meltdown ( that was the worst Thanksgiving week of my life). One word of caution, remind your sys admins that the Cluster with the DB must come up before the ARSystem server. When they did a scheduled restart ( without informing me ) they let the ARServer box come up first and couldn't figure out why the ARSystem Applications were not working all weekend.
And to concur with Rick and Brad, it always depends on the needs of the community and the load on the system. We only get 150 - 200 Helpdesk tickets a day. With more emphasis coming on using Midtier I am actually planning on setting up a secondary server to handle Midtier usage when the demand grows. HTH, John J. Reiser Software Development Analyst Remedy Administrator/Developer Lockheed Martin - MS2 The star that burns twice as bright burns half as long. Pay close attention and be illuminated by its brilliance. - paraphrased by me -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bradford Bingel Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:53 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: arserver and midtier ** Depends. If your MidTier services are intended only for internal use, then MidTier can run on the same platform as your AR System server and applications. (This may or may not be the best design, however, as application+database demands may be very different than webserver demands.) But if your MidTier services are also intended for external use, then Rick is correct -- you really should consider putting the MidTier server out in a DMZ, while keeping the application+database server well protected behind your firewall. Already have a webserver in a DMZ? Great! Just install MidTier to that server. -- Bing Bradford Bingel ("Bing") ITM3 California http://www.itm3.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (email) 925-260-6394 (mobile) ________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:21 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: arserver and midtier ** Depending on your usage, it can work just fine like that. One other thing to consider, though, is where the web access (i.e. the web server) needs to be in your network architecture and security model. DB and Application servers need to be protected well behind the firewall, but a web server may need to be located outside the DMZ to allow outside access to it. If your web server and application server are the same box, you lose that flexibility, and have to make a difficult choice with no good answer. Rick ________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Koski, David Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 3:43 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: arserver and midtier ** Remedy doesn't recommend running Midtier and the ARServer on the same box for performance issues, and I'm curious if anyone is doing this. Our scenario is this. I want to put oracle into a RAC cluster on its own servers (And possibly a third off site system using Data Guard). In that scenario, I was looking at consolidating the midtier, web, and ARS process into a single set of boxes (1 box with the production, 1 box for the backup system). Midtier usage is extremely light, and most of the access is via the aruser clients. Is anyone doing this? Does anyone see a problem with doing this? (In our case, I would think 4 gig max memory with a set of intel dual core dual processors would be enough on the front end to handle this, but...) Because of the cluster, I'm trying to keep the number of boxes to a minimum, since 5 would be a tough sell, let alone separating midtier/web our onto it's own set of boxes, particularly since the usage is really light. Thoughts? Thanks David __20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ __20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
