Hi Mike, I had the same issue recently and the View Form just vanished while we were testing. After the steps in the KB were followed and the server restarted, I found the form. The only difference in the form was that I had 2 fields "Create-Date" and "Modified-Date" added to it by system. This brought my field count to the expected value. I deleted the 2 fields and have not had any issues since. Regards Supreet
--- "Kendhammer, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for everyone's comments and suggestions. > > I think I have a plan and that is to follow > KM-000000006374 as Supreet > suggested and also BMC support suggested. > > My hope is that if I update the numfields column in > the arschema table > for each of the 31 join forms that I have that have > gone bad, stop and > re-start the arsystem, then these forms will become > visible in the admin > tool once again, and then I can at least delete them > the standard way. > > > Now I just need to figure out when to do this as I > am leaving for DC > tomorrow morning (a bus trip with 90 plus 5th > graders!) and won't get > back until Sunday, so looks like I won't be able to > get to it until next > week sometime. > > I think the system should be fine until then... > > Thanks! > Mike > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard > Baird > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 8:06 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: Manual Removal of Forms from Database > > Good call Axton. That's the approach I've taken in > the past for this > same > kind of thing. You may still need to remove the > record for the join form > in > arschema and the view for the form if they still > exist though. > Aradmin.exe > may not let you do the .def import if these still > exist, even though > they > don't show up in aradmin. > > This approach does mean considerably less "hacking" > of the DB. Not sure > if > anyone mentioned this yet, but be sure the AR > Service or daemon is > shutdown > before doing such surgery or you may end up with an > even bigger mess. > > Cheers, > > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: Axton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 7:12 PM > Subject: Re: Manual Removal of Forms from Database > > You may have better luck importing a def of the same > form type and name > into > the server, then deleting that. That should keep > your db clean if it > will > work. > > There are records in a lot of tables to clean up if > you had any field > fields, workflow, form views, etc. > > Axton Grams > > On 5/7/07, supreet gill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > Search for KM-000000006374 in the knowledgebase on > the support site. > > There is also a script attached to the KB for > Oracle. > > Regards > > Supreet > > --- "Kendhammer, Mike" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Without going into a long story here, I try to > explain the > > > aftermath... > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a number of Join forms that appear to > have been corrupted. > > > The view and corresponding record in the > ARSCHEMA table exist, yet > > > they do not appear in the Admin Tool. (Yes, I > did check that the > > > 'By Form' > > > filter was set to All Forms...:-) ) They don't > compile, thus > > > underlying tables have been altered or are gone. > I do see an error > > > in the arerror.log file stating "The form > definition file field > > > count does not match number of fields in the > file (ARERR 403)" then > > > the form name. > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to know besides dropping the T and H > tables and deleting the > > > records from the ARSCHEMA table, what other > tables need to be > > > updated or dropped? It looks like records in > many of the 'FIELD*' > > > tables may need to be updated as well. I no > longer need these join > > > forms, thus I don't need to worry about > restoring them. > > > > > > > > > > > > We are running ARS 6.3.0 patch 20 on HP-UX > 11i/Oracle 9i. > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone has gone through the process of > manually > > > removing tables > > > within ARS, I'll like to hear your comments or > see > > > any notes/steps you > > > may have or gone through to do it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike K. > > > > > > American Standard/Trane > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ____ > ___ > > > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at > > > www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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