Hello Tony,
we had customizations and the Patch 003 did not influence them. Mainly we did 
customizing for Incident and Change Module. But of course it depends on your 
customizations. We are still waiting for Patch 004 so I can not tell you about 
that one.
If you don't have a test system where do you develop your customizations?

Tim

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Rick/Chris/Axton and fellow ITSM7'ers

Has anyone had experience applying patches (003, 004) to customized 
systems?  I've done 003 in the past but that was prior to form and 
workflow modifications.

I don't have the luxury of a true "test" system to screw up and am 
wondering what if any customizations will be lost.

-tony

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I just got done giving a hard look at the p4 release notes, and I have to
agree with you, Chris - there are a few serious issues addressed there 
that
might make this one worth my while.  I'm giving serious consideration to
installing this one, depending on when they formally release it.

Rick

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I define VERY compelling as many of the current problems we have 
encountered
with the ITSM 7 suite patch 003 that have caused me to defer 
implementation
until they are fixed; I am hoping that patch 004 will fix some of them, 
but
I won't believe it until we install it and test it again with live users.
Until then, the application suite simply is not ready for production use,
and I refuse to inflict it upon people who are trying to get real work 
done
(and succeeding today with ITSM 5.5.1).

The way the patches work will continue to endanger any customizations, and
there will have to be some before we can put it into production since the
customer search dialogs fail to follow even previous ITSM apps, and do not
provide for searches on the login name - our key identifier for who the
customer is.

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Remedy Database Administrator
University of North Texas Computing Center http://remedy.unt.edu/helpdesk/
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Lovely.  I think it's time for someone with a big thinking cap at BMC to
take a bit of time to think up and implement a patch process that 
customers
WANT to follow; one that is worth the investment of time and effort.  The
current one doesn't have any sane person doing handsprings in the 
hallways.
Maybe they're hamstrung by some flaws in the application architecture, but
that shouldn't be the customer's problem to deal with.

I just installed patch 3, and would have to see a VERY compelling reason 
to
patch further.

Rick

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Subject: ITSM 7.0.x Patch 004

Has anyone seen or heard anything further on the patch 004 developed for
Change Management 7.x and the Service Desk 7.x applications?  The 
technical
bulletins went out last Wednesday, and are available on SupportWeb under
documentation, but the patches themselves have yet to appear in the "Patch
Downloads for BMC Remedy Products" interface.
Rooting around in the ftp paths I found their files dated 4-18-2007, and 
the
readme's indicate that they will be rather involved to install, with the
added attraction of destroying the incident management task template 
add-on
(which has a serious flaw, anyway) and I have to assume that they will 
also
wipe out the Remedy Knowledge Management integrations that I have had to 
add
manually to the incident, problem, and service request forms.  Seems like
these application patches break as much as they fix, in their current
incarnations.

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Remedy Database Administrator
University of North Texas Computing Center http://remedy.unt.edu/helpdesk/ 


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