Amen to the "Defective as designed" status!  Best laugh I've had all week!

Rick

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As designed.... I hear this a lot on the list these days... maybe bmc needs
a disposition of 'defective by design' for these things... there is a big
difference between 'the design is defective', 'the product is defective
(does not meet the design)', and 'the design is good, this is a limitation
of the implementation'

Axton Grams

On 6/6/07, Jarl Grøneng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We still see that the admin tool is increadible slow when saving an active
link.
>
> API logs shows that admin tool fetces all active links after save is 
> done, and this happend even if form list is restriced by the 'View By 
> Form' .
>
> Saving an active link takes 30-50 seconds. BMC support says this is as 
> designed. The server has aprox 32.000 active links.
>
> --
> Jarl
>
> On 4/20/07, Chapman, Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > **
> >
> > Jason and all who replied - thanks much !
> >
> > I have switched to Development Cache mode and its speeded up the 
> > Admin tool considerably !
> >
> >
> >
> > Colin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  ________________________________
> >  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:47 PM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Subject: Re: Administrator performance slow
> >
> >
> > **
> >
> >
> > I have been having a good experience developing in a VM. I am run a 
> > Win 2k VM on my laptop (XP Pro, 2.16 GHz Dual Core, 2 gig of ram 
> > (the VM gets 1 gig of ram)) Both the ARS (7.0.01 p001 / ITSM 6) and 
> > DB (MS SQL 2000 SP4) are in the same VM and I have not had any issues.
> >
> >
> >
> > The database is a copy of my production database granted our system 
> > is still in its infancy so there are not a ton of records. I do run 
> > in Development Cache mode. I almost always work with a partial list 
> > of objects since there are so many in ITSM. Maybe working with a 
> > limit set of objects helps with what Adam Pederson mentioned below 
> > (I have never noticed any issue along what he stated).
> >
> >
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mohan Panchangmath
> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:46 AM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Subject: Re: Administrator performance slow
> >
> >
> >
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Colin,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I agree with Adam. We have the same environment where the 
> > development server is running on VM and to make it even more 
> > difficult the SQL server is also on the same VM box.
> >
> >
> > Every workflow was taking almost 5 minutes to get saved.
> >
> >
> > To fix the problem ..not entirely but still made it pretty fast by 
> > turning ON the Development Cache mode in Admin tool.
> >
> >
> > Also if your SQL server is on the same VM box and your workflow 
> > modification is real slow even after setting the Development Cache 
> > mode ON, try restarting the SQL server every once in a while . We do 
> > this whenever we run into slowness and then the workflow development 
> > is pretty fast for some time.
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps!
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Mohan
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Adam D Pederson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 1:08:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: Administrator performance slow
> >
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hey Colin:
> >
> >
> >
> > I know that this might be going over old territory, but sometimes it
helps.
> > Are you set developer cache mode on the server?  Also, do you have 
> > object browser windows open when you are saving?  I know that it can 
> > be a pain to always be closing and opening them, but I know from 
> > experience that it can really save you some serious time, especially
with v7.  Give this a try:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1)       Open a filter and the object (server) browser and save a change
the
> > filter.
> >
> > 2)       Do the same thing (or just undo the change you just made) but
with
> > the object browser closed.
> >
> >
> >
> > I think that you'll be surprised by the difference in speed (at 
> > least I hope you will because that is my best bet for your problem)!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Adam Pederson
> >
> > Practice Director
> >
> > IT Service Management Practice
> >
> > Xinify Technologies, Inc.
> >
> > Mobile: +1 925 895 9500
> >
> > Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> >  ________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chapman, Colin
> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:17 PM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Subject: Administrator performance slow
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey Listers, (its a great list)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Running Admin on a development virtual server here at UNCW is pretty 
> > slow (especially when I hit the Save button)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I complained to our server folks, thinking more memory would help, 
> > got the response
> >
> >
> > As the system is configured right now......Over the last week it has 
> > only used a maximum of 50% of its memory and an avg of 10% of its 
> > CPU (spikes to 50%).
> >
> >
> >
> > I've got an important deadline to meet making some customizations to 
> > ServiceDesk.
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know what can be done to speed up Remedy Admin ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Colin
> >
> >
> >
> > ARS 7.0.01 (patches are now being applied)
> >
> > Servicedesk 7.0.01 (patches are now bing applied)
> >
> > MS SQL 2005
> >
> > Windows 2003
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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