Hello everyone,
  Just an FYI.
  'TR.Submitter' != $NULL$ would not work if you want to track the following 
scenario:-
  1. 'Submitter' field has a value in it and user  erased the value in it and 
saved it. In that case 'TR.Submitter' would be NULL even though a change 
occured on that field.
  I would suggest to use , 'Submitter'!='DB.Submitter'. This would track all 
records.

  Thanks
  Chintan.
Leigh Gruber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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           John,
   
  THANK YOU so much.  With all the great ideas presented, this one will require 
only a minimum of my time and is just the sort of solution I was hoping to 
find.  As a side bar, I will make a second filter to ensure that every form is 
at least touched during that week.  
   
  To EVERYONE who helped contributed to this thread, THANKS for all your help,
   
  Leigh
   
      
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Subject: Re: Submitter Mode - Locked ...Brute force?

   
  ** (off the top of my head - so some details are missing - but you should get 
the point)

A technique to find if you can take advantage of submitter mode locked:

Create a new table called "SubmitterChangeTracker" 
create a filter if 'TR.Submitter' != $NULL$ -- push a record to 
SubmitterChangeTracker with schemaname, recordnumber, etc....

Put that filter on Modify -- for all your schemas....

Then let it run for a week -- if you find records in SubmitterChangeTracker -- 
you will be able to track it down. 

etc...

-John


    On 7/11/07, Leigh Gruber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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      Good Morning Listers,
   
  We have an existing system operating with the Submitter Mode set to 
Changeable.   This system has around 750 forms with a mix of Remedy and home 
grown applications.  We need to change submitter mode to Locked so we can host 
another custom application which must run in Submitter Mode Locked.
   
  I have 3 questions!
   
  1. Is there any way, other than ones that require "brute force", to determine 
if the original system has workflow that modifies the submitter field?  I have 
set the development box to Submitter Mode locked and tried some very limited 
record modification, but I don't have any testing resources available.
   
  Here's what I've tried so far on our dev system (Remedy 6.3; MS SQL Server):
    
   Analyzed Advanced search results on the object_search_details form.  The 
selection criteria was ('Item Details' LIKE "%Submitter%") AND NOT('Item 
Details' LIKE "%1 = 0%").  I haven't seen a problem in resulting (100 or so) 
records.  
   I've also checked the Submitter field #2 for other names it may have.
   
  2. Are there any "gotchas" I should know about that might cause us problems 
if/when I change the production system?
   
  3. Is it safe to assume that our Remedy/BMC applications will NOT have 
workflow that writes to the Submitter form?
   
  I would appreciate any words of wisdom you might have for me.
   
  Many thanks,
  Leigh Gruber
   
   
   

   
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