One of the benefit with the MS System Center is the tighter
integration with biztalk and sharepoint.

And of cource; much better user interface!

--
Jarl

On 7/20/07, Pierson, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
**

I would add that a big problem with this is that ITSM 7 is extremely buggy,
harder to use than previous versions, and extremely expensive.  AR System
development is what kept Remedy alive, and by de-emphasizing the strong
point of Remedy, I see AR System and ITSM usage declining in the future.  I
have heard from a lot of people that their management is looking forward to
the ITSM release from Microsoft because they think it will be more
integrated with other systems.  While I think the Microsoft product is not
going to be that good in the first release, it will improve, and if BMC does
not improve the quality of ITSM and go back to selling AR System itself as a
major product, Microsoft will put them out of the IT service management
business.

Shawn


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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 7:18 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: BUW 2007 Track Sessions Announced

**
I think that Susan has a point, and to make a more specific observation, the
de-emphasis of the AR System as a development platform, making BMC's defacto
focus on it just being a willing and able container for the ITSM/CMDB, has
led to less custom work going on these days.  This in turn leads to fewer
people able to talk about innovative things they're doing, because it's
increasingly out of the mainstream that it once would have been in the
middle of.  Not to say that there isn't custom work, it's just that privacy
concerns are probably keeping most govt. apps private, and most private
entities are going ITIL/ITSM these days, because that's all that BMC sells
to them.

Not necessarily blaming BMC for that, just saying that this is a foreseeable
byproduct of their product direction, exacerbated by the fact that many of
us are neck deep in trying to figure out what the **** BMC was thinking in
some of the feature decisions with ITSM.

Maybe THAT would be a good breakout - Gap analysis between ITSM 7.0.2
delivered functionality and what customers are actually wanting it to do,
both raising awareness for prospective customers and giving some ideas for
bridging those gaps for both future and present deployers of the apps.

Rick

On 7/19/07, Susan Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> **
> David,
>
> Maybe there is an unspoken message that bmc should be listening too.
There generally is no lack of submissions by non-host presenters.  Since the
advent of the various version 7 products there has been an aura around
Remedy that is disconcerting to some degree.  Last year we gathered over a
100 topics of interest.  This year few if any topics were suggested here.
That in itself is very unusual.
>
> Thoughts to mull over ....
>
> Susan
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/19/07, Easter, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > **
> >
> > > I, too, was disappointed with the dearth of non-BMC presenters.
> >
> > We too were disappointed in the number of customer submissions.  If
anyone missed the submission deadline but has a desire to present, please
feel free to send me a direct E-mail with your topic and synopsis.  We still
have some ability to move things around to accommodate customer
presentations.  It doesn't necessarily have to be a development training
session - we'd love to have customers present their honest (but hopefully
positive) experience with BMC products too!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > -David J. Easter
> > Sr. Product Manager, Service Management Business Unit
> > BMC Software, Inc.
> >
> > The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed
in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
Inc.
> >
> > ________________________________
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
> > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:27 PM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Subject: Re: BUW 2007 Track Sessions Announced
> >
> >
> >
> > **
> > I, too, was disappointed with the dearth of non-BMC presenters.  I think
the submission time was far earlier than it had been in years past - that
may have had a bit to do with it.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > On 7/19/07, Bill Estep <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > ** I didn't see any development sessions.  They are all BMC product
related.  Did anyone see anything that's not BMC product related, but Remedy
development?
> > >
> > > Thanks, we're still trying to decide if we are sending folks.
> > >
> > > Bill Estep
> > > Nemours
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/18/07, Geoffrey Endresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > ** For some reason it's not on the list
> > > >
> > > > I want the session called "Remedy Licenses for Dummies" with tips
and tricks to using the minimum amount of floating licenses while staying
within the License Agreement.
> > > >
> > > > -Geoff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/18/07, Jarl Grøneng < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > > Pretty much the same, but also
> > > > > AR System Plug-in Server 7.1 and Java SDK and AR System 7.1 API
enhancements
> > > > >
> > > > > -
> > > > > Jarl
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/17/07, Jon Chau < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > > > **
https://bmcuserworld.com/catalog/catalog/catalog.jsp
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What are some of the topics that most interest you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm interested in:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Definitive Pure Java Single Sign On Integration of Remedy
Web
> > > > > > Making DVF Development Easier: A High-Level API and a Case Study
> > > > > > Taking Advantage of New Features in AR System Server 7.1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jon
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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