We moved the forms and workflow from our 6.3 servers with exports.  It
should have been moved as server independent.  I can't guarantee that it
was.

Thanks for the suggestion.  I'll take a closer look.

Dave

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Dave.

I've been working around what may be some related issues.

I'm cleaning up lots of workflow and discovered hard coded server names
which can cause the server timeouts. In our case, there are IP addresses
for server names that carried over to production over the years. If the
Admin tool can't resolve the server name or IP address, it tries and
tries and causes ARERR 90, 92, etc.

Our def file is about 280MB.

Similarly, I turned on ARAPI logging and the arxref.log filre was 5GB
when I killed it and gave up. The problem seems to report every error in
cross-referencing in detail - so the more unstable the workflow is - the
bigger the logs get and they may not be able to complete the process.

Do you have any server, client logging or ARAPI turned on?   

Hope this helps.

Scott.

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that's cool...I was just covering all the bases...:)

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LJ Head,
 
Not exporting as XML.  Just standard def file.
 
Rick,
 
You're question is the one that I'm trying to figure out.
 
Dave

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OK, I just ran a sanity check - for my own, not the server's.  I created
a def file of a few dozen forms.
 
Size of Def file:  116 MB.
Max Size of tmp file in Windows/Temp:  113 MB+.  (It may have gone away
before refreshing to a higher value).
 
So since I seriously doubt you have 10 GB worth of code, why are you
getting a 10 GB temp file?
 
Rick
 
On 9/18/07, Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

        Well, that still doesn't make sense, because even your DB,
including all indexes, isn't 10 GB.  Either there's some horribly
inefficient design, or there is a local issue.  I have Windows servers
that don't have 10 GB of open disk space, and I create def files for and
on them all the time without running out of space. 
         
        Is this SQL, or Oracle?
        
         
        Rick
         
        On 9/18/07, Shellman, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote: 

                From my understanding it's kind of a scratch file that
is then processed
                down to what comes out in the def file.  It seems to me
that it 
                shouldn't be that much bigger than the size of the def
file that gets
                created.  Worse case maybe an order of magnitude larger.
                
                I think that somehow it's tied into the timeout due to
server busy
                message.  To me it looks like some kind of looping
condition that 
                continues to gather data but no where to report it.  The
admin tool has
                dropped the link and creates a 0 size def file.
                
                I haven't had a response to my question about the
timeout condition.
                
                Dave
                
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                OK, here's what I don't get on this:  The biggest def
file I have is
                around 200 MB, and that's including most of ITSM 7.  How
is a 10+ GB 
                temp file justified?  If it's working as designed, make
them justify the 
                design.
                
                Rick
                
                On 9/18/07, Shellman, David
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
                
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                       Here's an update on the issue.  The file size was
10 Gig and
                growing rapidly.  The file was specifically tied to
exporting workflow
                from the admin tool.  As soon as we would cycle the
service associated 
                with the AR System the file would disappear.  When I
would start the
                export process, the file would appear.
                
                       We just moved over to the Windows environment
from SUN systems.
                I don't ever remember seeing anything like this on SUN.
If the system 
                would have been writing a file this large in system
workspace, the SUN
                guys would have been all over me.
                
                       I got a response from Support yesterday.  It's
working as
                designed.  I haven't ever had the admin tool time out
with server busy 
                error with an export of workflow before.  I also did not
see (could have
                missed it some where) that exporting workflow would
create a huge
                temporary file in a system temp directory.  If we would
have known this
                before we would have setup disk space much differently.
                
                       Dave

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