I don't think that model is unique to Oracle, most likely other companies have it too. The point that is interesting is that Oracle is mixing the Fusion stuff in the middle of closed source software in the first place; Oracle also sells applications like BMC and Oracle execs have said that in order for their customers to buy more and more Oracle apps, and not feeling being locked in, they are open-sourcing the middle-stack. Another point is several users (customers) are building custom apps using that middle-stack, and one of the most important deciding factors is that is of course open-sourced and java-based (which is also open sourced now). If you want to know more about fusion, you may as well go the oracle web site and download all the info you need.
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Bradford Bingel Sent: Sun 09/23/07 2:09 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: IBM MRO? What makes the Oracle Fusion model so unique and such a good analogy for the AR System? -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:18 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: IBM MRO? Your argument does not apply to either Oracle Fusion, Java or Solaris ( and most likely many more). Again the best example is the Oracle Fusion model, and in my opinion, something BMC should seriously take a look at. Guillaume -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE Sent: Fri 09/21/07 12:02 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: IBM MRO? One must keep in mind that many "open source success stories" involve taking an *existing* open source piece of code and then branding it, marketing it, and profiting by offering support. Red Hat is an example of that. They took something already freely available (open source, that is) and branded it. That's a far cry from taking a profitable commercial product and opening the source. -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 11:04 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: IBM MRO? ** there you go. I would also add Apache, Tomcat, JBOSS, mySQL, Red Hat, etc, etc all successful open source stories -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Axton Sent: Fri 09/21/07 11:50 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: IBM MRO? Like Solaris? or Java? or id's game engine for quake? ... Axton Grams On 9/21/07, Kaiser Norm E CIV USAF 96 CS/SCCE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well...I think asking a vendor to open the source to a commercial > product is definitely dreaming. Open the source so a competitor can > steal your intellectual property? I don't think so... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:09 AM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: IBM MRO? > > Ah... while we are dreaming..... > > How about they open access to their source code for their paying > customers. ( They do not even have to change the licensing model to do > that.) Just let us see the real code. If they are still wanting to > keep things locked down... then they can keep some parts closed source > too. > > That way they build "platform presence" and can get their customers to > actually help them fix BUGS in their code. :) > > > The real root problem (IMHO) they think that they can make more money > the way they are running the business now. Only time will tell if some > competitor comes and eats their lunch , or some portion of it, or > maybe they will adapt when they think they have no other choice. > > -- > Carey Matthew Black > Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) > ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) > > Love, then teach > Solution = People + Process + Tools > Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. > > > > On 9/21/07, John Sundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ** > > Just an idea. > > > > How about selling a stripped down ARServer that only can run one > > application. > > > > The server would be open to all users (no licenses) for that one > > application. (BMC would not get license revenue per user) -- however > they > > would get revenue for the server license -- and they would grow their > > partner channel and the platform presence. > > > > That server would only exist for "registered/approved" applications. > So - if > > somebody wants a generic ARServer for their own internal app -- they > would > > buy a normal ARServer and user licenses. > > > > > > -John > > ________________________________________________________________________ > _______ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where > the Answers Are" > > ________________________________________________________________________ _______ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" > ________________________________________________________________________ _______ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" __20060125_______________________This posting was submitted with HTML in it___ ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are" _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org ARSlist:"Where the Answers Are"
