Dear Maniac(serouche),

  While I find it noble that you want to decompose and read a
proprietary file format, I also find it to be mundane. My approach
would be much simpler than what has been suggested so far.

Suggestion:
   1) Add the field back to the form.
   2) Then open the Active link and look at what it is doing.

The long and short of it is that the ARX and DEF file formats are "for
internal use only" (as far as I know) and they are not explained
because the vendor does not support you reading/modifying them at all.
 Yes, it can be done, but it is "at your own risk".

The heart of the problem(understanding the DEF file format) lies in
understanding the ARS API at the C level. If, and only if, you speak C
then your answers can be found in the C header files when coupled with
the C API docs. However, it is much easier to use the clients (add the
field and look) than it is to spend the time it takes to decipher even
one "simple" DEF file line.

FWIW: If you do your object backups in XML format then the details are
much more human readable. (But still not supported by the vendor for
reading/modifying.)

HTH.

-- 
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.


On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Remedy Maniac
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> **
>  thank you very much John for your answer and the solution you provide.
>  It will help me for sure.
>  But actually I am more interested into finding what the other values mean.
>  Does a course help? Which one?
>  Can anybody help with a hint/doc/suggestion/idea...?
>  Thank you
>  serouche
>
>
>
>
>  john rosquist wrote:
> **
>
> Does field 536871161 exist on the target form? Likely it does not. Copy the
> AL, and try and recreate the push action. If the fields have been actually
> deleted, you should not be able to do this.
>
> Turn on API and SQL loging. Look for the error there. Looking at the remedy
> vector will only generate a headacke unless you have the secret decoder
> ring.
>
> John Rosquist
> Windward
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>  From: "Kemes, Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:55:13 AM
>  Subject: Re: what does a push field do ?
>
>  This is a very good question.  I would like to know the answer to this
>  as well.
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Remedy Maniac
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:50 AM
>  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>  Subject: what does a push field do ?
>
>  dear listers,
>
>  whenever I try to open one of the AL which contains a Push Field action,
>  and I try to read the Push Field, I get a error message and I am not
>  able to read what the Push field does because "one or more fields have
>  been deleted from the form ..."
>  I have a backup of the AL so I can read the following for that Push
>  field action:
>
>  action {
>        push-field  : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    }
>
>  My question is simple: what does all this mean?
>  So "TEST2" is my form and 536871161 one of the field. But what about the
>  rest?
>  Where to find the references?
>
>  Thank you
>  Serouche
>
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