We're on the same exact version of ARS and also on SQL Server 2005.

Based on your testing, there are a couple of options:

1.  Use OLE DB as the data source for now to get around the problem (actually 
the preferred connection source according to the class I just took).  Downside 
is it will require you to translate menus, etc.

2.  Use ARODBC to pull everything but those large fields.  Once that data has 
been loaded in SSIS, connect again using OLE DB to add those extra large text 
fields to the data before writing it out.  This option gives you the benefit of 
the ARODBC translations while still being able to work around your problem and 
get the extra data fields prior to writing the data out.

Craig Carter
Software Engineer, RSP

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Yes, this refers to SQL Server 2005 Integration Services.  We're using
ARS 7.01 patch 5.

We created several SSIS packages to populate a data warehouse with
several Remedy tables (HPD:Helpdesk, CHG:Task, SHR:Audit, etc.) on a
nightly basis. These are very simple jobs with no transformations
involved.  We're using DataReader Source and connecting through the
Remedy ODBC driver to get the data, then saving it to a SQL table on
our reporting server.

For the most part these have worked fine, but we've run into a problem
with text fields such as Description, Worklog and Audit Message.  When
there is too much texts in any of these fields (several paragraphs,
not sure of the exact size), the SSIS job simply hangs when selecting
the data.  The step
will turn yellow and the status bar reads "[DTS.Pipeline] Information:
Execute phase is beginning."  But it stays that way until I stop the
job.  We can select these fields if they contain a small amount of
text.  But the job chokes when we add a few K of text to those same
fields.  The text fields are being transferred as DT_TEXT or DT_NTEXT.

In terms of the troubleshooting we've done:

  - The same SELECT statement works fine on the same machine when
using MS Access or Crystal Reports, with both apps using the Remedy
ODBC driver and same user credentials as the SSIS package.

  - We've verified that the "DataReader Source" connection works fine
when selecting large text fields from other databases.

  - We've turned off validation (though the package validates fine)
and increased the buffer size in SSIS, with no luck.  Logging is no
help either.

  - We've verified we can SELECT the same text fields by querying the
T tables directly and not using Remedy's ODBC driver.

  - We're created the package from scratch on another machine with no
luck.

At this rate we're sort of dead in the water.  Any insights or
recommendations would be much appreciated...


On Mar 17, 2:32 pm, Gidd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mr/Mrs Bird:
>
> One can only assume you are speaking of Microsoft SQL Server Integration
> Services?
> Can you help us to help you?  
>
> What version of MS SQL are you using?
> What version of ARS are you using?
>
> Regards...Gidd
>
> PS: Claire ...  
>
>
>
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> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:24 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: SSIS and Large Fields, importing large fields issues
>
> We're seeing issues when moving (copying) data to our data warehouse when it
> comes upon a work log field where there is a LOT of data it hangs, the job
> never completes.  We can cancel it and it doesn't error, it just waits.
>
> Anyone seeing this issue with SSIS and custom (Remedy) ODBC drivers.
> I found this thread that validates that this isn't just our problem.
> Unfortunately, there is no resolution in the thread or elsewhere that I
> could find.
>
> http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1497581&Site...
>
> Do you have a support contract and contact for Remedy that we could open a
> ticket with regarding this issue?  I would believe that they may have seen
> this with other customers and may even have an updated driver that works
> around SSIS's limitations.
>
> I'll make an inquiry with Microsoft with regards to this issue and see if
> there is a workaround within SSIS or a hotfix in the works.
>
> If those two paths are dead-ends then there are alternatives outside of SSIS
> that we could explore using.
>
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