Hi Thomas,

Hey thanks.....will try out tomorrow on my UAT server and will check
for the changes.......will let you once done..............

Regards,

Amey Bhosale

On 4/1/08, Thomas Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> **
> Amey,
> Yes, this will most likely be an issue at each DST change until the related
> patches have been applied.
>
> According to BMC, all of the related DST patches (OS, Java, and ARS must be
> applied).  Refer to
> http://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/87/90/68790/68790.pdf
> for more detailed information.  In particular, this paragraph from the patch
> documentation sums it up quite nicely:
>
> In addition to any BMC-provided patches, the native operating system and
> third-party application (including application servers, web servers,
> databases, and
> Java) patches for DST must be applied to each system. To find out whether
> patches are needed and how to obtain them, contact the product vendors.
>
> There is also an entire section in the document that lists some of the
> possible problems that will occur if the AR Server and Mid-Tier are not
> patched, such as:
>
> Display of date/time information in a BMC Remedy Mid Tier web client will be
> off by one hour if performed between the "old" DST window and the "new" DST
> window (for example, between March 11 and April 1, 2007, or between October
> 28 and November 4, 2007).
> Functions performed by the mid tier (for example, active links) for web
> clients will be off by one hour if performed between the "old" DST window
> and the "new" DST window.
> Custom Java applications that use the utilities provided by the Java API to
> do date-time calculations will be off by one hour if performed between the
> "old" DST window and the "new" DST window.
>
> So, if you decide to patch only the OS and Java, the results will likely be
> unpredictable at best.  As such, my recommendation to you is to upgrade your
> AR Server and Mid-Tier to at least version 6.3 Patch 21, if at all possible,
> along with any additional patches to the OS, Java, web server, database,
> etc.  It will be a headache to be sure, but it will be a worthwhile effort,
> IMHO.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Thomas Bean
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "AMEY BHOSALE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: gmane.comp.crm.arsystem.general
> To: <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 5:31 PM
> Subject: Re: DST Problem for Server in EMEA
>
> > Hi Thomas,
> >
> > Thanks for the details...but would like to ask you that our AR System
> > Server will mainly pickup the files from Java and OS for to work it
> > over midtier.So if we directly update the the Java and OS files wont
> > if be possible.
> >
> > And if we dont apply the patch wont it affect the users next
> > time..........so there needs to be some solution to overcome this
> > issue.
> >
> > So managing these changes to US DST requires updates to the underlying
> > JVM and OS being used by WLS
> >
> > WebLogicServer <-> Java Virtual Machine <-> OS.
> >
> > Correct me if i am wrong...............
> >
> > Let me know your views on this and what can be the best possible solution.
> >
> > Warm regards,
> >
> > Amey Bhosale
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/1/08, Thomas Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> **
> >>
> >> Hello Amey,
> >> This is from
> http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/b2.html:
> >>
> >>
> >> When we change our clocks
> >>
> >> Most of the United States begins Daylight Saving Time at 2:00 a.m. on the
> second Sunday in March and reverts to standard time on the first Sunday in
> November. In the U.S., each time zone switches at a different time.
> >>
> >> In the European Union, Summer Time begins and ends at 1:00 a.m. Universal
> Time (Greenwich Mean Time). It begins the last Sunday in March and ends the
> last Sunday in October. In the EU, all time zones change at the same moment.
> >>
> >> So, if the issues just started appearing today, then I would guess that
> it had something to do with the UK-based server switching to DST yesterday
> (March 30th), and the fact that DST would not be in effect in the US until
> April 6 this year, if the pre-2007 DST rules were still in effect (prior to
> 2007, the DST start date in the US was set to the first Sunday in April).
> >>
> >> So, if you don't apply the patch to your server, then I am guessing that
> the issue will probably only affect your users this week.  After April 6,
> I'm guessing everything should be back to normal.
> >>
> >> As for loading only the OS or Java patches, and leaving the AR Server
> unpatched -- this will probably *not* work.  See the earlier message from
> David Easter dated March 12, 2008 under the subject "Re: DST update..." for
> more info (message is attached).
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >>
> >> Thomas Bean
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Amey Bhosale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Newsgroups: gmane.comp.crm.arsystem.general
> >> To: <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
> >> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 3:56 PM
> >> Subject: DST Problem for Server in EMEA
> >>
> >> > Hi All,
> >> >
> >> >  We are currently working on ARS 6.3 Patch 12 and Midtier 6.3 Patch 13
> on SunOS 5.8  with a Solaris based server and having a problem with the
> users in North America with the DST (Day Light Saving) changes.As per my
> knowledge DST changes every year and from the year 2007 there has been a
> change where the DST change occurs second Sunday of March and ends in
> November.
> >> >
> >> >  We obeserved today that many of our users in North America are having
> problem with the Date/Time Field as they seem to have one hour lagging
> behind the server time which is in UK (EMEA)
> >> >
> >> >  I do know that we have a Patch 21 for this but also heard that instead
> of installing Patch we can directly add the Java files into the Java
> Directory which will take care of that.
> >> >
> >> >  Can someone please help me out on this...as we are having a major
> issue.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >  Warm Regards,
> >> >
> >> >  Amey Bhosale
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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