Thank you both very much! Yes, very nice!
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Woyton Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:13 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Web Services I'm a little rusty with my Blackese, but I think what CMB said was "No, not really." :) ARS isn't able to publish a Web Service using the WSE3 spec, but can consume one as long as there's an authentication mechanism available(that is to say, the .NET web service has a security policy in place to allow basic authentication from ARS). Chris Woyton -ps Seriously though, nice write up as usual Matt. :) -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:50 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Web Services Brian, No reason to apologize for such a question. ( At least you looked in the docs first. :) ) That is the first time I had heard of a v3.0 for "WebServices". So I did a quick google and found this: " Web Services Enhancements (WSE) 3.0 for Microsoft .NET " If that is what you are referring to... then my bet is the answer is "it depends". After 5 minutes of reading it looks like M$ is trying to wrap more layers around "standards" (or things that some day might be true adopted standards) to make new "M$ $tandard$" that are really not standards nor could they ever really be because they are limited to the MS platforms. ( The point of web services is to make things work well no mater what the client or server platform / software / orientation / management / age /etc...) But I admit that I have spent as much time typing this response as I did looking at the details of this new shiny toy from M$ so I may have misjudged it at first glance too. ( I am aware of that possibility, and have no problem with it.) However... with all of that said..... You did not mention if you desire ARS to publish with a WSE 3.0 accent or consume a service that has a WSE 3.0 accent and I think the two objectives likely have very different answers. In general ARS's use of Web Services is "focused" on how they can be used to benefit ARS applications. And as such they do have some limitations due to decisions about how to map the general WS universe into/out of an ARS application. BMC does not seem to be concerned about "bleading edge" approaches for integrations. Rather they want simple, clean and functional that give them a big bang for the development time buck. ( After all they did not even support HTTP basic authentication methods until something like v7.0? That is the first three major versions that supported WS's [ 5.1.2, 6.0 and 6.3] without that feature.) So when I saw the M$ page I found was marked as "Date Published: 11/7/2005" then I really began to doubt that BMC would support it. It may help you to come to the same conclusion if you know that BMC's ARS product is currently using (as far as I can tell) Apache Axis 1.2. Which had a final release data of "(May 04, 2005)" according to http://ws.apache.org/axis/ . Ok... stop giggling, the most recent Axis version 1.4 was released on April 22, 2006. ( Which is over two years old already ! ) If your desire is to consume an external WSE 3.0 web service from inside an ARS application, and your ARS server is a Windows server, then I would think it should work with a little luck. I bet it is possible, but not easy. You likely need to write your own Filter Plugin, base it in C or C++. ( Unless there is a Java to .Net bridge out there, but I think you can find C to .NET binding/bridging approaches fairly easily.) So I hope that the WSE 3.0 supports C (or C++) so that you can use the ARS Filter Plugin API to get the job done. HTH. -- Carey Matthew Black Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP) ARS = Action Request System(Remedy) Love, then teach Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two. On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Brian Gillock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ** > List, > > I apologize for this newbie question. This is my first WS integration > and I'm not finding this in the Integration doc. Does ARS 7.1 support WS > 3.0 extensions. > > > > Thank you! > > Brian ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" ____________________________________________________________________________ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
