Romain,

So lets say I auto-identify base element, which should give a RE id to
all populated instances. That means its also going to auto identify all
comp sys instances, basically its just going to dump everything into BMC
ASSET; that's what I want to avoid.

Now heres a different idea; lets say I auto identify the super-classes
of all component child objects. I don't auto-identify
BMC_ComputerSystem. Lets say reconciliation finds 5 matching Comp Sys
instances in BMC ASSET. Then, when I start the merge could I set it to
include Child CIs, but also apply a qualification group to that merge
that limits it to class BMC_ComputerSystem? Would that essentially allow
only the 5 reconciled BMC_ComputerSystem instances to be merged, along
with their child objects?

The documentation is so poor. I don't know whether the child CIs would
be filtered out of the merge by the qualification group or not.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P Romain ARSlist
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 3:23 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Merging of non-reconciled child CIs

Matt,

The CMDB does exactly what I think you want it to do regarding
reconciliation (but not the inheriting of owenership, etc).

You have presumably already set up an identification job for the
computer
system class and set the auto-identify off.

Set up another identification job for base element with auto-identify
on.

Then, when the parent computer system is identified and merged so will
all
the children that are weakly related to it. BMC refers to the parent and
weak children as a composite object.

Any children that are related by strong relationships will auto-identify
and
merge regardless of the parent.

Cheers

Peter



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Worsdell
Sent: 30 October 2008 06:35
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Merging of non-reconciled child CIs

The difficulty is ascertaining what a child ci is. Could be dependant or
component, however quite valid stand alone cis may utilise those
relationships.

Another suggestion, how about you fire in and validate after. You could
run
a compare job prior to merge and execute workflow to set an attribute
flag
to highlight ci for valiation?

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:40 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Merging of non-reconciled child CIs

Matt,

It sounds like the functionality I am looking for is not there. I was
hoping
for some kind of middle ground between manually adding every CI into BMC
ASSET then reconciling to get the attributes synced up (very slow), or
auto-identifying all CIs in the discovery dataset and firehosing them
all
into BMC ASSET (very fast, but difficult to validate).

If you were only forced to manually populate Computer System CIs into
BMC
ASSET, and the discovery dataset child CIs could auto-identify once
their
computer system parent was identified, it would be a very good
compromise.

On this same topic, computer system child CIs should also have the
option of
inheriting ownership/support data/relationships and asset lifecycle
data/relationships from their parent computer system CIs. A lot of work
needs to be done here to enhance the maintainability of large CI count
production datasets.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:15 PM
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