So far all of my attempts to build a stable mid-tier on 7.1.00.006 to replace 
002 are failing, with flashboard and CCMCalendar crashes killing the mid-tier 
tomcat 5.5.25 instance.  Considering that the production tomcat 5.5.26 under 
mid-tier 7.1.00.002 has crashed only once in the last nine months (last 
October), I'm not convinced yet that 006 is any improvement.  Am working with 
support on it...

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Apache Tomcat Memory Pool

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Patch 006 has definitely seen a marked decrease in the tomcat crashes we have 
experienced here and that too those were not becuase of OutOfMemory errors. If 
you view the contents of your current catalina.out file, I can bet that your 
crashes are due to OutOfMemory errors.

Another useful tip would be to turn on incremental garbage collection. This is 
always good to free up unused portions of memory that haven't been used for a 
significant time interval.

Joe

________________________________
From: "Begosh, Kevin" <kevin.beg...@lmco.com>
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:14:40 PM
Subject: Re: Apache Tomcat Memory Pool

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Yes this does help and I am on 7.1 as well so this would help out a lot.  We 
are having those exact issue with Tomcat crashing.

Kevin Begosh, RSP
Tech Ops
Enterprise Business Services
301-791-3540 Phone
410-422-3623 Cell
kevin.beg...@lmco.com<mailto:kevin.beg...@lmco.com>

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:13 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Apache Tomcat Memory Pool

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Thsi is more of a Tomcat setting than a 'BMC recommended' setting.

The golden rule for sizing tomcat memory is to not use more than 65% to 70% of 
the available free memory before the tomcat service is started. This gives the 
server at least 30% to 35% headroom.

With that in mind it is nice to have a max memory of at least around the 3 GB 
mark where the usage of the servers is about average.

Since you are using tomcat, if you are using Mid-Tier 7.1, I would recommend to 
hop on the patch 006. In my experience here the earlier patches had a memory 
issue, that addresses OutOfMemory errors that cause Tomcat to crash which was 
addressed in Patch 006. Also the performance is way better as I have noticed 
that it takes a relatively short time for the server to build its cache after 
an initial restart on patch 006 (at least 5 to 10 times faster) than it was on 
lets say Patch 003. I haven't tried patches in between 003 and 006

Hope this helps..

Cheers

Joe

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From: "Begosh, Kevin" <kevin.beg...@lmco.com>
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 12:53:46 PM
Subject: Apache Tomcat Memory Pool

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Does anyone know what the BMC recommended or what the best settings are for the 
Apache Tomcat memory pool for the Mid Tier.  We are windows 2003 and we have 
two mid tiers that are load balanced.

Kevin Begosh, RSP
Tech Ops
Enterprise Business Services
301-791-3540 Phone
410-422-3623 Cell
kevin.beg...@lmco.com<mailto:kevin.beg...@lmco.com>

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