You would think that you could do that, but I found that it didn't seem to work 
as we thought it did in that regard. 

Bottom line :  test this thoroughly before using it in production. 

Rick
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-----Original Message-----
From:         Guillaume Rheault <guilla...@dcshq.com>

Date:         Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:54:36 
To: <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Re: NEXT-BLOCK-ID-SIZE


You can also set this setting at the form level.
So this would seem the best solution: enable a higher number for certain forms 
only, like the BaseElement form.

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Rick Cook
Sent: Wed 02/11/09 10:39 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: NEXT-BLOCK-ID-SIZE


**I spent some time playing with this some months ago. It turns out that the 
recommended setting of 10 is as large as the value should be, unless you are 
having outside processes creating large numbers of records virtually 
simultaneously. Standard workflow like a Push Fields create wasn't enough to 
warrant the setting. Setting the value larger than 10 actually slightly 
degraded system performance. 

So set it to 10 for ITSM if you are using something like discovery to populate 
the CMDB. Only consider a higher setting if your DB will be more highly taxed 
from an I/O standpoint than that. And if that is the case, there are probably 
some other things at the DB level that would increase performance without the 
side effects to the other forms. 

Rick 

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From: Guillaume Rheault 
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:23:14 -0800
To: <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Re: NEXT-BLOCK-ID-SIZE


That is a good question. I believe there is no white paper or recommendation 
from BMC, like there is for the number of list and fast threads.
One place to look for guidance is with database performance monitoring tools. 
In general terms, without delving into each database specifically, if the 
database monitoring tool reports that there is too much contention on the 
arschema table, you would increase this number. Large Remedy deployments can 
have this number set to 100...
 
Unless you are the DBA too, I suggest you get your DBA involved in monitoring 
the database. There are many things that can be done at the database level to 
improve performance: partitioning, esoteric indexes, stored execution outlines, 
caching lookup tables, etc, etc.
 
-Guillaume

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Frex Popo
Sent: Wed 02/11/09 2:54 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: NEXT-BLOCK-ID-SIZE


** 
Thanks Guillaume, will bear this point in mind for future customization.
 
Does anyone know how the server goes about assigning those id's in each block 
to new requests. Are they assigned randomly or do they start from the smallest 
and then onwards to the largest in the block.
 
What needs to be taken into consideration when deciding what number to set the 
NEXT-BLOCK-ID-SIZE?
 
Kind Regards
frex

--- En date de : Mar 10.2.09, Guillaume Rheault <guilla...@dcshq.com> a écrit :


        De: Guillaume Rheault <guilla...@dcshq.com>
        Objet: Re: NEXT-BLOCK-ID-SIZE
        À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
        Date: Mardi 10 Février 2009, 17h22
        
        
        As you know, the reason why this feature was implemented was to improve 
performance by reducing the contention on the arschema table. This feature 
mimics the Oracle sequence, which has the same issue: there can be gaps in the 
sequence because of instance crashes or rollback in transactions.   I guess the 
general advise is not to rely on the Request ID field (Field ID 1) anymore for 
anything, as much as possible: ideally relationships would be done on the 
Instance ID field (field 179) instead, or some other criteria. Actually the 
ITSM apps aim that goal, so therefore we should too....   -Guillaume  
________________________________  From: Action Request System discussion 
list(ARSList) on behalf of Frex Popo Sent: Tue 02/10/09 10:41 AM To: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: NEXT-BLOCK-ID-SIZE   **  Dear all,   I have and 
ITSM7.0/ARS7.1 instalation, I have set the NEXT-BLOCK-ID-SIZE to 10. I would 
like to know how do you decide the size, is it based on the number of server 
threads, the number of DB processes, number of users etc etc? I am aware that 
if you restart the server you loose the sequencing, however are there any other 
implications if you set this too high? The reason I am also asking is, I 
noticed that some requests which were created say @ 10AM (for the sake of 
argument!) have a sequence with a number grater than others which were created 
@ 11AM.   Many thanks in advance frex________________________________  Ne 
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