When you upgrade to 7.5 patch 3 a second email service will install instead of updating the current service. It installed fine on our development system, then immediately started firing out emails. If it would have just updated the existing service then the system would not have been able to connect out and send bogus emails. Now I make sure that all queued up notifications are deleted prior to upgrades. Should have known better.
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Hermann, John N Mr CTR USA TRADOC Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:10 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: ARS 7.5 Installer (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE I haven't looked at the 7.5 installer but if it works like most other bulk packages it should dump the MSI's for the individual applications in a temp folder somewhere. You should be able to grab the ones you need from there. -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Schryver, Curt Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:31 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: ARS 7.5 Installer ** I second that rant. We're currently looking to deploy the Client to the desktop via SCCM (used to be SMS) and are hoping we'll find some method of just downloading that part instead of then entire 400+MB installer. Just starting to dig into that so if anyone has a hint on which direction we should be looking.... (hint hint) Thanks, Curt Curt A. Schryver 717-810-2109 tel cschry...@tycoelectronics.com ________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of strauss Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:17 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: ARS 7.5 Installer ** <RANT> Is it just me, or are any of you having problems with the new ARS 7.5 monolithic installer? It is an all or nothing kind of approach that makes upgrades and repairs a lot more hazardous and unreliable since you can no longer work on just the one problem service (AREmail is the primary culprit here) without running an install against the entire ARS system. In 7.1 and earlier we have always had trouble with the AREmail module - it is one of the services that seldom upgraded correctly, usually losing its ability to connect to MAPI properly and requiring you to uninstall it, wipe all traces of it from the file system and registry, and reinstall it. I haven't figured out any way to do that with the monolithic suite installer without "touching" the entire installation. Someone somewhere must have thought that a single suite installer would be simpler to work with, but in practice it makes a nightmare out of troubleshooting and reinstalling a particular problem service (and AREMail after 4.x has always been a "problem" service - witness the open issue I have had with our production AREmail system crashing on 7.1 since June 2008, still unresolved). It also means that any run of the installer takes WAY longer since you have to go through every dialog even though 90% are irrelevant to what you want to do, and reenter passwords all along the way for things you didn't need to work on, or now they will STOP working. The suite installer might make sense for a new install of a fresh system - ONCE. After that, you still need individual service uninstall-reinstall capability. Part of my frustration is from trying to troubleshoot two 7.5 systems, one upgraded from 7.1 and one a fresh install, neither of which can successfully run the AREmail service and send out mail. The same complaint applies when working on a web server, but you are generally in a more limited environment with only mid-tier and flashboards installed. Upgrading the 7.x mid-tier by installer historically trashes your integration to crystal reports, making it necessary to uninstall it and install a fresh instance in order to get it working again. The monolithic installer gets in the way here too, just not as much (and not as high-risk) because only mid-tier and flashboards are typically on the web server. </RANT> BTW, the 7.5 installer still prompts for account, password, and domain for Email like it always did (5.x, 6.x, 7.0, 7.1), but no longer concatenates domain\account to use when creating the Remedy Email Engine service (so it fails to do so in our environment). You have to enter the account in the form domain\account in order for the service to get installed - the field for domain is now ignored by the installer. I have reported it as a new 7.5-specific defect. 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