Lyle,

"To bring up workflow associated to a form that isn't the primary form", you 
would use the Working Lists feature introduced in the 7.5 Developer Studio 
(especially the Related List type Working List).

Here is a snippet from the chapter that talks about Working Lists in the 7.5 
Developer Studio guide (found at 
http://documents.bmc.com/supportu/documents/53/81/95381/95381.pdf).

Working with working lists
Create a working list to keep references to objects that you need to view, 
change, or export to complete an application development or maintenance task. 
You can add and remove objects from working lists as you work with them.
Descriptions of your working lists are stored locally in your BMC Remedy 
Developer Studio workspace. Working lists refer to objects on the AR System 
server, but the server does not record any information about working lists or 
an object's membership in them.
BMC Remedy Developer Studio has the following types of working lists:
_ View-by-form list-Contains one or more AR System forms and all objects 
related to them.
_ Related list-Contains one or more AR System objects and optionally either 
directly related objects or all related objects.
Every time you open a working list, the list is updated with the current 
related objects. For example, if a filter is created that is associated with a 
form in a view-by-form list, the new filter is included the next time that you 
open the list.
NOTE
Although there is no limit on the number of objects in a working list, lists 
with many objects, included related objects, are slower to open than lists with 
fewer objects.
_ To create a view-by-form list
1 In the AR System Navigator, expand serverName, right-click Working Lists, and
choose New View by Form List.
2 In the New View by Form List dialog box, enter the List Name.
3 Click Add.
4 In the Form Selector dialog box, select one or more forms to include in the 
list, and
click OK.
To filter the list of forms, type a pattern in the Name field. To move to a 
form in the
list, type the first characters of the name in the Locate field.
Use the usual Windows methods to select multiple objects. For example, hold
down the CTRL key and click an item to select or deselect it.
5 Click OK to save the list.
_ To create a related list
1 In the server branch in the AR System Navigator, right-click Working Lists and
choose New Related List.
2 In New Related List dialog box, enter the List Name.
3 Click Add.
4 In the Add Items dialog box, select the objects to include in the list.
To filter the list of object, type a pattern in the Name field, select an 
application
from the Application drop-down list, or clear the appropriate Object Category
check boxes. To move to a form in the list, type the first characters of the 
name in
the Locate field.
5 In the Add Items with Related Property drop-down list , choose to add just the
objects selected, the object and directly related objects, the objects and all 
related
objects, or, for applications and packing lists, the object and its contents.
See the information about exporting objects in the Form and Application Objects
Guide for descriptions of the related options.
6 Click OK.
7 In the Related List dialog box, to see which objects will be included in the 
list, select
an object and click Show Related.
8 To remove an object and its related objects, select it in the list and click 
Remove.
To remove all objects from the list, click Remove All.
9 To change which related objects are included in the list with the selected 
object,
select the objects in the list and click and change the value in the Related 
column
or click the buttons.
See the information about exporting objects in the Form and Application Objects
Guide for descriptions of related options.
10 Click OK to save the list.

Thanks
Suresh
BMC Software

Note: Developer Studio is backwards compatible with 7.1 servers.

From: Lyle Taylor [mailto:tayl...@ldschurch.org]
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: fast way to find the object in Remedy

**
You could also do it fairly easily in Developer Studio, if you're brave enough 
to use Developer Studio against a 7.1 server (I haven't really had any issues 
so far).  Developer Studio lets you easily filter workflow and forms based on 
various criteria, one of which is the Primary Form for the workflow.  I haven't 
found a way to bring up workflow associated to a form that isn't the primary 
form, though.  That seems to be a drawback of Dev Studio.  But then again, I 
may just have missed that option...

Lyle

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 12:17 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: fast way to find the object in Remedy

**
Atif,

Since you say 'quickest' technically the AR Admin tool isn't the 'quickest' way 
to find objects especially if you have all those OTB apps of ITSM installed..

The quickest way would be trying a database search..

For e.g. if you want to search for all AL's tied to a particular form:

select name from actlink where schemaid in (select schemaid from arschema where 
name = '<your schema name>';

You could also use the exist clause instead of in, which I am told has a 
performance advantage..

These searches will take no more than a few seconds (1 to 2 or 3 seconds) as 
opposed to nearly a minute or more on the Admin tool..

You could run similar searches for other objects like filters, menus, etc..

Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of ITN (Atif Akbar)
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:09 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: fast way to find the object in Remedy
**
Hi,

I am using Remedy 7 and need to know the quickest way to find that Objects 
(e.g. active links, Filters) related to Form.

Thanks & Regards
Atif Akbar


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