David, why doesn't the installer use the Java version the customer has
likely already installed?  Is there a technical reason it needs to actually
install its own version?

Rick
On Dec 15, 2011 1:58 PM, "Easter, David" <david_eas...@bmc.com> wrote:

> **
>
> The bundled JVM/JRE is supplied for use by the installer because the
> installer needs it.  Once the installation is complete, use of the bundled
> JVM/JRE is used by some customers as a convenience, but it is not a
> requirement.  It is not meant to restrict any customer to using that
> version during run time or convey that the provided version is the only one
> supported.   Customers are welcome to use any supported version of Java
> that they see fit and/or patch/upgrade the supplied one.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> -David J. Easter****
>
> Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform****
>
> BMC Software, Inc.****
>
>  ****
>
> The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in
> this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
> voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
> spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
> Inc.****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Jason Miller
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:47 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: CMDB - Bundled JVM****
>
> ** **
>
> ** It is a little more current (very little) on my 7.6.04 SP2 Windows
> server.****
>
> ** **
>
> \PathToInstall\BMC Software\AtriumCore\BMCAtriumCoreInstallJVM\bin>java
> -version****
>
> java version "1.5.0_11"****
>
> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_11-b03)****
>
> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_11-b03, mixed mode)****
>
> ** **
>
> Jason****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Axton <axton.gr...@gmail.com> wrote:****
>
> ** Does anyone know why certain components of ITSM come bundled with an
> ancient version of the Sun JRE?****
>
> ** **
>
> Atrium Core comes bundled with this JVM:****
>
> ** **
>
>  [user@server bin]$ pwd****
>
> /path/to/AtriumCore/server/BMCAtriumCoreInstallJVM/bin****
>
> ** **
>
> [user@server bin]$ ./java -version****
>
> java version "1.5.0_09"****
>
> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_09-b03)****
>
> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 1.5.0_09-b03, mixed mode)****
>
>  ** **
>
> The following security issues are not addressed in the bundled JVM:****
>
> ** **
>
>  The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures project (cve.mitre.org) has
> assigned the following names to the security issues fixed in****
>
> JRE 1.5.0_18: CVE-2009-1093, CVE-2009-1094, CVE-2009-1095,****
>
> CVE-2009-1096, CVE-2009-1097, CVE-2009-1098, CVE-2009-1099,****
>
> CVE-2009-1100, CVE-2009-1101, CVE-2009-1102, CVE-2009-1103,****
>
> CVE-2009-1104, CVE-2009-1105, CVE-2009-1106, and CVE-2009-1107.****
>
> The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures project (cve.mitre.org) has
> assigned the following names to the security issues fixed in****
>
> JRE 1.5.0_20: CVE-2009-2625, CVE-2009-2670, CVE-2009-2671,****
>
> CVE-2009-2672, CVE-2009-2673, CVE-2009-2675, CVE-2009-2676,****
>
> CVE-2009-2716, CVE-2009-2718, CVE-2009-2719, CVE-2009-2720,****
>
> CVE-2009-2721, CVE-2009-2722, CVE-2009-2723, CVE-2009-2724.****
>
> The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures project (cve.mitre.org) has
> assigned the following names to the security issues fixed in****
>
> JRE 1.5.0_22: CVE-2009-3728, CVE-2009-3729, CVE-2009-3864,****
>
> CVE-2009-3865, CVE-2009-3866, CVE-2009-3867, CVE-2009-3868,****
>
> CVE-2009-3869, CVE-2009-3871, CVE-2009-3872, CVE-2009-3873,****
>
> CVE-2009-3874, CVE-2009-3875, CVE-2009-3876, CVE-2009-3877,****
>
> CVE-2009-3879, CVE-2009-3880, CVE-2009-3881, CVE-2009-3882,****
>
> CVE-2009-3883, CVE-2009-3884, CVE-2009-3886, CVE-2009-3885.****
>
>  ** **
>
> There are many more issues that exist with the bundled JVM that are not
> listed above.  See here for a more comprehensive list, which unfortunately
> only goes back to 2007, so updates to the bundled JVM between it's release
> date and 2007 are not outlined on the following pages:****
>
>  http://blogs.oracle.com/sunsecurity/tags/java****
>
>
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/security/javacpuoct2011-443431.html#AppendixJAVA
> ****
>
>  ** **
>
> Of particular concern are the following:****
>
>  http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2011-3556****
>
> http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2011-3557****
>
>  ** **
>
> I don't understand why the JVM is bundled with the product.  Flashboards,
> email engine, and the main ARServer Java plugin server do not have a
> bundled JVM, but these particular components do.****
>
> ** **
>
> This applies to the plugin server used to load the following plugins:****
>
>  DSM.FILTER (dsm.jar)****
>
> BMC.ARDBC.ATRIUM.API (atrium-ar-kit.jar)****
>
> AIS.FILTERAPI (ais.jar)****
>
> RMDY.ITSM.RLE (rle.jar)****
>
>  ** **
>
> And also to another plugin server used to load the following plugins:****
>
>  BMC.FILTERAPI.NORM.ENGINE (neplugin75.jar)****
>
>  ** **
>
> Applicable Environment Information:****
>
>  - ARServer 7.5 Patch 3****
>
> - CMDB 7.5.00 Patch 005****
>
> - Platform: Solaris 10****
>
>  ** **
>
> Questions I have for anyone willing to answer:****
>
>  - Is the JVM bundled with later versions of the CMDB the same version or
> has it been updated?****
>
> - Is it possible to use a different JVM for these 2 plugin servers without
> impacting the stability of the plugins or is there some
> inherent dependency on that specific JVM?  I can easily re-point the plugin
> server to a later release of Java in these files:****
>
> ** **
>
> /path/to/AtriumCore/server/cmdb/server/bin/normeng.sh****
>
> /path/to/AtriumCore/server/cmdb/server/bin/atriumplugin.sh****
>
>  ** **
>
> Axton Grams****
>
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