Its not about knowing the subject.. I’ve always had stage fright. I had kind of got over it for a while when I started participating in social activities that exposed me to attention like that so I get over the whole stage fright issue.. Just that I haven’t done a lot lately. Last time I ever got on stage was to receive my 2010 MVP award last year.. I did feel a little nervous just getting up there :-)
From: Shellman, David Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:50 AM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: DevStudio Tool ** Joe, I agree that it would be could for you to do a presentation at WWRUG12. I know the feeling about being mortified standing in front of an audience. I did a presentation at WWRUG in San Francisco years ago. I find that if deep down you understand the subject, the presentation will be over before you can get nervous. Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:30 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: DevStudio Tool ** The documentation is unfriendly.. I agree.. the best way to learn it is fiddle with the tool.. I can’t be honest and say I have read a single page of the documentation on that tool. I’m not even kidding.. My path had been trial and error too.. I even recall asking one of my colleagues on how to change permissions on a form and he being new to it didn’t know as well so we both figured where it was after a lot of frustration.. That was within that first 7 day period that I was made to work with that tool.. After I found where about 50% of everything is, it started feeling a little more easier.. Even at that point I wished that old tool back so much.. I think I even recall posting on the list on how terrible the new tool is. The only reason I do not feel bad about posting that now is those things I found actually turned out to be bugs.. Finding bugs like the type I found do not help when I started using that tool with some form of inborn hatred. It took me about 10 to 15 days to get used to it and after that I still didn’t think I liked all the changes.. Until I started to slowly see the advantages of some of them and then almost all of them.. If I am there at the next RUG (although I suck at presenting things and usually get mortified when standing in front of an audience) I would not mind doing something like that.. But that would mean I would need to start evaluating how I use it. Its something I’ll think about.. If not I wouldn’t mind sitting around after a day with everyone interested and have an informal session where we all can discuss all our positive experiences with the tool. Some of us may repeat the others, but it may be a great dinner time social session.. Maybe I may prefer something like that so I do not have the pressure of the focus being on my material :-) Joe From: Susan Palmer Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:13 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: DevStudio Tool ** Joe ... I say this with the nicest intent. I wish I knew as much about Dev Studio as you do. I found the documentation to be unfriendly and too time consuming. I simply don't have time to play with it just to find everything. It was mostly a trial and error and how can i do this without necessarily finding the best way since time didn't allow. I think you would be a great candidate to do a tips/tricks on Dev Studio at the next RUG for those of us that would love to see them. Maybe I'd be the only one there, but I think that's unlikely. Please consider it! On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Joe Martin D'Souza <jdso...@shyle.net> wrote: It probably is 7.6.03 that fixed it as I do not have that hassle at this current site and they are still at 7.6.03. I can't wait we get ready to move to 7.6.04 if I am at this site for long enough.. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Guillaume Rheault Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 6:58 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: DevStudio Tool I've been working with DevStudio since it first came out in 7.5. Learning curve was fairly steep at the beginning but definitely worth the time and effort. I would never ever go back to the old Admin tool, even if that was a possibility. If I had to be involved in a project with ARS 7.1 or older and I had to do a lot of development, I would put all my energy to convince management to upgrade to at least 7.5 in order to be able to use DevStudio, so I'd do all the development with DevStudio: I hope this sums how I feel about DevStudio and the old admin tool. . I truly believe that once you are comfortable with DevStudio, you will be much more productive (if you already are an experienced developer, that is). what would I change about Dev Studio? What really annoyed me in DevStudio 7.5 was the "over-grouping with the parentheses" in qualifications in join forms, active links, etc, but that has been fixed. I don't know if it was 7.6.3 that fixed or not, since I jumped from DevStudio 7.5 to 7.6.4 SP2, and 7.64 SP2 does not "over-group" with parentheses, at least not how 7.5 did. So to answer your question with DevStudio 7.6.4 SP2, what would I change? I can't think of anything right now.... Guillaume ________________________________________ From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] on behalf of Carin Sinclair [remedy...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:24 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: DevStudio Tool Hello there all, We would like to have your input on a Question. How happy are you with DevStudio 7.5-7.6 to do customizations? Do you miss the Admintool? Are you satisfied with the DevStudio functionality, usability and reliability. If there was one thing you would change about DevStudio, what would it be? 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