For one....if they say 'in version x this will happen', and it ends up either not being version X, or it ends up not being in there...it creates public relations nightmares because of people saying 'but you said, and I was counting on it, blah blah blah'....this type of thing happened a few years ago when they gave a future looking comment that said v8 will be the last version to have a native client, with the thought that v8 was going to be the next version released....well, it wasn't...the next version ended up being 7.6.3...and then 7.6.4 was called a maintenance release of it...and THAT is the final version with a client....so this caused TONS of documentation problems all over the place...so in general, they try not to state to the public things like 'this will happen by x' and such because it causes expectations that may or may not be met.
-----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 7:58 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: Future of the AR System and Web Services... Pardon my ignorance, but what are the obvious reasons? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Easter" <david_eas...@bmc.com> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 10:39:28 PM Subject: Re: Future of the AR System and Web Services... ** For obvious reasons, futures can’t be openly discussed on a public forum, but I can say that web services will continue to be improved in future releases. The inability to interpret arrays is a known limitation that certainly is something that is desired to be addressed. There are, of course, other enhancements that we’ll be considering in the future as well. Web services is an important method for integrating applications because it insulates the calling application from version or structure changes in the target application. Because of this, it is a focus of the BSM solution and will therefore continue to receive attention and generate improvements. -David J. Easter Manager of Product Management, AR System BSM & Atrium Solutions Management BMC Software, Inc. The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 2:50 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Future of the AR System and Web Services... ** Does anyone know where this is headed to?? The current AR Systems capability or incapability rather to consume complex constructs limits a lot of what you can hope to do using web services. From hearsay, even version 8 does not have the ability to understand WSDL’s with complex constructs. Are there any definitive plans on when these would be reengineered to overcome these limitations? From my recent experience with attempting to consume complex WSDL’s, this incapability appears to be more superficial, than internal to the AR Server. It may be either at the Dev Studio level, or the actual WS plugin. It is actually in some circumstances possible to bend these limitations which shows that some of these limitations are not at the AR Server level itself. So that makes me wonder if it could be incorporated with just be a patch enhancement instead of planning it with a major release.. Also, does anyone know at what level is a WSDL interpreted when creating a Set Field filter action that uses a WSDL? Is it interpreted at the client level (dev studio) or server level (the WS plugin itself)??? What I mean to ask is when you enter the WSDL URI into the Set Fields action on a filter while creating a WSDL powered set fields filter, at what level does all the ‘magic’ happen? At the client side? Or on the server side?? I am trying to find if this is documented anywhere so if you have come across it please let me know where to look.. Cheers Joe _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are" _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
