According to the documentation, this defaults to 100, retries every 15 seconds, 
and only applies to an already started and connected remedy server to a db that 
goes away in the middle of operation...I did not see that this particular 
option applied to my situation :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 8:07 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Remedy Startup

You can also set a value in your ar.cfg file:   
   Db-Connection-Retries = Number of times the AR System server tries to 
reestablish a lost connection to the database. 

Fred

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 8:55 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Remedy Startup

Mark,
Thank you again...you may have just added the KB into my 'toolset' again.  I 
have long ago written off this resource as not useful to me on a daily 
basis....I just went and searched on the search string I would have used to try 
and find this article, and the one you provided was the second item on the 
list.  I may just need to look in there going forward :).  I agree however that 
this should be in the official documentation because it's a config parameter 
that is available.

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Walters, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 7:45 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Remedy Startup

There are a number of KB entries that mention this - 
https://kb.bmc.com/infocenter/index?page=content&id=KA333064 - for example, but 
I agree it would be helpful if it was in the docs somewhere too.  I've raised a 
documentation defect/RFE to request that this be added the AR manual somewhere.

Regarding other gems - there are a couple of other variables, one that can 
control the polling interval used by armonitor when querying dependent services 
for example, but I can't ever recall ever seeing them used.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
Sent: 13 June 2012 14:28
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Remedy Startup

Ok Mark, first off, Thank you, that worked the miracle that I needed.

Secondly, why isn't that documented anywhere?  I have spent roughly 10-15 hours 
trying to 'fix' this particular problem reading every document I can find, 
scouring the web, utilizing countless resources to try and do exactly what you 
just gave me, all to no avail because this option isn't documented.  If it had 
been it may have been an hour or two...but I certainly would have found this 
documented SOMEWHERE and applied the fix.

Thirdly, what other 'gems' does BMC have hidden way in un-documented features 
that the average or advanced user of the system would find EXCEEDINGLY useful 
if they only knew it was an option

Thank you again...you just pulled yet another thing off of my plate, and for 
that I'm truly appreciative...I can now move onto bigger and more important 
things :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Walters, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 7:12 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Remedy Startup

There's an environment variable that you can set to a numerical value - 
V_WAIT_BEFORE_STARTUP - that will be read by armonitor and it will wait that 
many seconds before it starts the server.  For example, 
V_WAIT_BEFORE_STARTUP=300 would be a 5 minute delay.  One thing to note though 
is that this delay will happen on every restart of the Remedy service, which 
can be a nuisance if you want to just bounce the service once it has been 
running for a while.

The variable needs to be set at the system level so that the service can read 
it and I think a reboot is required when it is set/changed.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
Sent: 13 June 2012 13:58
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Remedy Startup

Andrew,
You are correct....SQL Server is reporting itself as online, when it's not 
fully available, and this is screwing up Remedy because it's trying to connect 
to a DB that's not yet available.  I'm looking for a way to delay that startup

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Andrew Fremont
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 3:13 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Remedy Startup

** It could be that the SQL service is not up yet by the time AR start.

It happened on one of our dev machines after rebooting where both AR and SQL 
are installed.

Andrew.

-----Original Message-----
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC  wrote:


        Ok...my box is running Remedy and SQL Server both and on startup the 
Remedy service fails to start properly.  The arerror.log shows an error about 
ARAdmin login failing twice, then the process dies.  An immediate attempt to 
start the service functions fine.  Checking the SQL Logs I see something along 
the lines of
        
        12:00:00 Starting ARSystem
        12:00:01 Attempted login from ARAdmin failed
        12:00:02 Scanning ARSystem
        12:00:06 Recovery of ARSystem complete
        
        That's not a copy of the log (because I can't get that to the 
internet)...but that's close to what it says....this is only happening on one 
of my boxes, and I suspect that it's a memory related issue because when I 
check a functional box, I see everything except the login failed line, but it 
all happens within a second of each other...and my remedy doesn't have any 
problems starting.  I have the Remedy service set to depend on the SQL service, 
but according to the internet (and my personal experience) the SQL Service 
reporting as 'up' does not mean that DB's are available.  MS recommends that if 
you need to 'delay' the startup of a particular service that you should set it 
dependent on 'Spooler'...I've done this but it doesn't help...I need another 
5-10 seconds delay with the attempted starting of Remedy service....any 
recommendations?
        

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