Hi Howard!

I'd ask the BMC support person handling your case to get in touch with OnDemand 
Operations support and find out what the latest hotfix patches are for ARS and 
MT.  I just wrapped up a gig with OnDemand, and they seem to get the hotfixes 
very quickly, so if you knew precisely what to ask for then you might get a 
code fix for your issue.  I recall several memory related hotfixes over the 
past few months for ARS and for MT.

FWIW,
--Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Howard Richter
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 13:32
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Slow system restart/arsystem errors after restarting the mid-tiers 
on 7.6.4

Done all of that. But with the latest outage we have it narrowed down to the 
restarting of the mid-tiers that is causing the issues. Sent to BMC on one of 
the restarts a multi gig log file.

The strange item is that we refreshed our QA and staging system,  with 
production data and the issue does not show up there.

Howard 

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 12:49 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Slow system restart/arsystem errors after restarting the mid-tiers 
on 7.6.4

Howard,
I highly recommend turning on API/SQL logging to the same file, and then 
startup the Mid-Tier.  At the end of the 'unavailable' period you should have a 
VERY good log file that will be able to be analyzed by arwklga to give you the 
reasons for your errors.  It will tell you what API calls were taking the 
longest as well as the SQL in question, from that you should be able to analyze 
what in your system is slow and in turn tune it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Howard Richter
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 10:40 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Slow system restart/arsystem errors after restarting the mid-tiers on 
7.6.4

** 

Happy Friday all,

 

We have been seeing a very strange error since our go-live with 7.6.4 (and 
working with no luck with BMC support), when we restart our mid-tiers. We are 
on windows server 2008 and using MSSQL 2008.

 

What we have seen is we will shut down our two customer facing arservers (as 
well as our integration arserver), as well as our three mid-tiers. Then we 
bring up our three arservers (integration first, then the two customer facing 
ones), with no issues. After testing them with auto creation of an incident via 
email (an integration we created) and some poking around using the old user 
tool, we bring up one of our mid-tiers (i.e. start up the tomcat engine). At 
that point, the arserver that the mid-tier starts to talk to, starts to show 
database time out errors and you can no longer log in via the user tool.

 

It takes about 30 minutes for the system (the arserver/mid-tier) to stabilize 
and then we are able to bring up the other two mid-tiers.

 

We have not seen this issue in our QA system (which is all on VM) and our 
staging system. They both have somewhat the same architecture and we have 
verified the mid-tier configuration/patch releases. 

 

Since we are still working with BMC support (for over 3 months on this), I just 
wanted to see if anyone had seen this type of issue on other 7.6.4 systems.

 

Take care,

 

Howard

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