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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Longwing, Lj
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:45 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: How many escalation pools do you have...?

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I believe the limit is based on hardware capacity

On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Pruitt, Christopher (Bank of America Account) 
<christopher.pru...@hp.com<mailto:christopher.pru...@hp.com>> wrote:
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I have a question regarding this topic. Is there a limit on the number of 
Escalation Pools you can have on a server? We currently run with 4 but I was 
wondering if we can increase that to a number higher than that and if so what 
it the maximum number allowed?

Christopher Pruitt
Business Consulting III
Remedy Developer
HP Enterprises Services
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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of Thad Esser
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 11:19 AM

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Re: How many escalation pools do you have...?

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My first thought was the same as Fred's - do you have enough queues defined, so 
I can't offer much more in that regard.  However, you mention that you are 
restarting the server to clear up the dead thread.  Back in the 6.3 days, there 
was a version (patch 21 I think), where you could end up with ghost threads for 
escalations.  The fix was to disable escalations on the server settings, which 
would kill all the escalation threads, and then re-enable the setting, which 
starts them back up.  Changing this setting doesn't require a restart of the AR 
server.  So while your issue is slightly different, maybe doing that will clear 
your dead thread without having to restart the whole server.

Thad

On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:35 PM, William Rentfrow 
<wrentf...@stratacominc.com<mailto:wrentf...@stratacominc.com>> wrote:
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I can see it in the logs.  All of the escalations that have no pool defined 
will run in a random thread.

For example, our 4th thread was defined for a custom notification-type 
escalation.  It is the only thing that is assigned to pool 4 - but in the logs 
I see other threads accessing that pool - especially during those times when 
the escalation defined for pool 4 has died.

B.

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of Grooms, 
Frederick W
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 5:27 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Re: How many escalation pools do you have...?

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We currently have 3 pools on a pure custom (NON ITSM) system.

Where did you hear that pools are shared?   According to the docs the only time 
an escalation specified to run in a pool (thread) will run in a different pool 
is if you don't define enough thread queues for the number of pools you are 
using.  (i.e. You tell an escalation to run in pool 4 but you only have 2 
escalation queues defined.  The escalations set for pools 3 and 4 run in the 
first one instead).  Escalations are delayed if another is running in the pool.

Straight from the docs
Escalations can be assigned to pools so the escalations from each pool run in 
parallel on separate threads within the escalation queue. To use escalation 
pools, you must first configure multiple threads for the escalation queue as 
described in the Configuration Guide, "Queues," page 27. If you assign an 
escalation to a pool that has no thread configured, the escalation is run by 
the first thread.

All escalations in a particular pool run on the same thread, so the execution 
of escalations within a pool is serialized. Escalations run in the order of 
their firing times, but an escalation is delayed if an escalation from the same 
pool is currently running. If two or more escalations have dependencies and 
must not run at the same time, put them into the same pool to make sure they 
run in sequence.

Fred


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of William 
Rentfrow
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 5:06 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: How many escalation pools do you have...?

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Hi listers -

So we have an infrequent but recurring problem.  One of our mission-critical 
escalations (interval, 5 minutes) will every once in a while die.  It will stop 
appearing in the escalation log, and the only way to fix it is to bounce the 
admin server.

There's 204 total escalations on this server, the vast majority of which are 
ITSM 7.6.04 base product.

We are entering 4000-5000 tickets a day, with additional data being entered in 
CM, CMDB, etc., so the data load even for things like the 5-minute recurring 
SLM Measurement escalation can be significant.

We have configured the one that breaks it to run on a specific pool and no 
others are configured to use that pool.  Unfortunately that doesn't mean that 
pool isn't shared - others can hop in that pool too if the others pools are 
busy.  (Kind of thinking of submitting an RFE for a "dedicated pool" option 
that prevents sharing but that's another issue altogether).

So - how many pools do you use? We currently have a max of 4 and obviously 
that's not enough.

William Rentfrow
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