I believe they are in the process of making it completely java based - but from 
what I've heard that's still a couple years away.  Maybe they can add this to 
the requirements for ARS 9 or 10.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Hicox" <and...@hicox.com>
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 4:34:54 PM
Subject: Re: change location of a field

** It is technically possible to zoom fields around the screen with active 
links using clever JavaScript (jquery works really well for this given that the 
id of the div containing the field is usually the fieldid). 


However I'm rather certain this kinda hack voids your warranty so to speak when 
calling up support. 


Though Doug brings up a lot of good points about why doing things like this 
are, in general, a bad idea ... in my (now considerable) experience doing 
remedy stuff on midtier, it's been a request that continually pops up again and 
again.  


In my opinion, the reason it is a recurring issue, is that from an end user's 
perspective, "remedy" is now "a website" ... except that it isn't ... because 
it's GUI breaks nearly every expectation a user might have for interacting with 
a website. 


Which is why people continually ask us developers to try and make it behave 
more like a website ... And why we start thinking of these ridiculous 
JavaScript hacks and such. 


Remedy needs a better framework for defining web GUIs.  

Just my two cents on it 


Andy 


On Wednesday, April 2, 2014, Mueller, Doug < doug_muel...@bmc.com > wrote: 


Christoph, 

As is the case with many questions of this type, describing the problem you are 
trying to solve would really help. 

Several answers... 

No, it is not possible to change x,y coordinates or height or width of a field 
through active links.  Fields "moving around" on the screen is confusing and 
disconcerting to most users.  No support for this has been added. 

Now, if what you are looking for is areas of the screen to come and go and the 
screen to shift for new areas, then yes, this is possible.  You use panels and 
you 
put fields on various panels and when a panel is closed fields below it are 
shifted 
up into the space that is now closed.  So, this is one type of "field movement" 
and 
one that is expected by users. 

Or, if there is some specific reason for some condition to have a field "move" 
and 
it is something that the users would not be confused by, then the best approach 
is 
the one that is mentioned below.  Create a new display only field of the same 
type 
but with the new x,y, witdh, height, and whatever else characteristics.  Then, 
you 
use active links to 

1) Maintain the same value in both fields.  If either field has the value 
changed, 
   it is written to the other field.  Maybe something on loss of focus that 
just 
   writes the value to the other field and put this on each copy.  The only 
issue 
   here is on the Query screen where you need to make sure if you use the 
Advanced 
   Query bar, you reference the REAL field and not the copy.  In QBE you are OK 
as 
   display only fields are ignored and the two fields are in sync. 

2) Add workflow to hide one field and show the other.  Make sure that they are 
both 
   not visible -- unless you are trying to have the SAME value show in two 
places 
   which is actually another requirement and it would be handled using this 
same 
   technique. 

Those are your options. 

Dynamic moving of fields is not something that is planned for and has a lot of 
potential for field overlaps and confusion as a general principle.  There must 
be 
a clear need and clear value for the concept and then you would use one of the 
techniques above. 

I hope this helps, 

Doug Mueller 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of pritch 
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:20 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: change location of a field 

I actually had a similar requirement - made a second field and kept them in 
sync - only one visible at a time and if one was updated I did a setfield to 
keep the other updated. 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Tomasiewicz (ConAgra Foods)" < mike.tomasiew...@conagrafoods.com > 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:12:33 AM 
Subject: Re: change location of a field 

** 


It might be possible to copy the form, organize it appropriately, name it, and 
invoke it with an active link of some sort, however that seems like a lot of 
work, and depending on the requirements may be overkill.  

  

My advice is JUST SAY NO.  :-D 

  

.: Mike T :. 

  

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Raj 
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 1:13 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: change location of a field 

  

** 


Yes and No. 

  

There is no change field action to change the location for field. 

However, you can put the field in certain tabs and govern other tab visibility 
which would essentially give a limited impression of location change. 

  

-Raj 

  

From: Wagner, Christoph [via ARS (Action Request System)] [mailto: [hidden 
email] ] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 11:16 
To: Hiremath, Rajashekhar 
Subject: change location of a field 

  

** 


Dear listers, 

  

is it possible to change the location of a field in a form with an active link 
or something like that? To change the x- and y- coordinates or maybe the width 
and height options as well? 

  

Thank you very much for your help! 

  

Regards 

Christoph 

  

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