David,

Thank you for the note.

I have forwarded comments to the folks that own the page that AR System was not 
explicitly called out.

They used the product name

BMC Remedy ITSM Suite

to cover all things Remedy.

I have suggested they change it to something like

BMC Remedy AR System and ITSM Suite

or to add a new set of entries that explicitly state just AR System.

Since the ITSM Suite is fundamentally dependent on the AR System.  The fact 
that the ITSM Suite is not
affected by the bug means that the AR System is not affected because ITSM could 
not be unaffected if the
technology it was built on (AR System) wasn't also unaffected.  So, your 
environment is clear of the issue.

I cannot promise that there will be a change to wording of the messages, but I 
have forwarded your concerns
about the product name.  NOTE: As I was still typing in this response, I got a 
note back from the person
coordinating the response that if a change of wording helps, he is more than 
willing to get that done.  At this
point, the proposal is to change to say  BMC Remedy AR System and ITSM Suite.   
This way there is not a
need to list every app and every component of everything separately, but to 
still emphasize that the AR
System is included in the list as not being affected by the issue.


Only versions of the product under current support are listed in this table.  
The bug was introduced into
OpenSSL in 2012.  So, nothing that shipped prior to 2012 can be affected by the 
bug - and all things pre 7.6.04
were shipped prior to 2012.


As for the Flash, an initial flash message was sent out the day of the report 
of the issue and BMC simply sent
a note including every product that used OpenSSL as a potential.  I posted that 
the Remedy line was clear to
this list within a day or so of that message and then the forma note of this 
product and others from BMC
came out a couple of days following that.

I see the one posted was dated April 15.  I am not sure why the solutions were 
listed as unknown at that time
as we had the answer on April 9 that the Remedy line (all pieces) are not 
affected.  It may have just been all
the information filtering back and caution was in the "unknown until we have 
all definitive information
otherwise" camp.

I am not sure who gets the Flash notices or how registered - but will try and 
see why you did not get
something since you believe you are signed up to receive them.


Thank you for the comments and hopefully, we can clean up some of the aspects 
you found confusing
quickly and consider these topics in future communications.

Doug Mueller

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of David Durling
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 6:37 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Remedy, OpenSSL, and the Heartbleed bug

**
Doug,

First, on my part I appreciate your initial note about the status of the Remedy 
line.  However, I was also waiting for an "official" statement - web page or 
email - that I could send on to management & sort of verify that nothing else 
had turned up.  My confusion was that I couldn't and still can't find "AR 
System" or any variant of that on 
http://www.bmc.com/support/support-news/openssl_CVE-2014-0160.html?a= , so just 
on Friday I told my management that AR System's status was still undermined per 
the note on that page saying products not in table 1 or 2 are still under 
investigation.  We're all custom ARS, so I figured ITSM apps didn't apply to 
us.  Am I misreading something on that page?

Also, I *could* be mistaken but I'm pretty sure I never received a Flash 
bulletin like the one Jase initially posted about, though I'm subscribed to all 
"proactive notifications" for AR System Server & Flashboards.  (I'm on 7.5 
still, so don't know if that has anything to do with what alerts I receive.)

Thanks,

David

David Durling
University of Georgia


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Mueller, Doug
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 7:20 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Re: Remedy, OpenSSL, and the Heartbleed bug

**
Andrew,

On this topic, I want to understand your statement

Why is it that literally every single communication with BMC is shrouded by a 
cloud of confusion or outright misdirection lately?

I posted an initial note to the ARSlist and BMC Communities with information 
about the REMEDY product line.
This note summarized the use of OpenSSL and whether aspects of the Remedy line 
were affected and
confirmed that nothing in the Remedy line (including CMDB) was affected.  The 
note further stated that
formal communication about the Remedy product and about all other BMC products 
and whether they were
affected was forthcoming from BMC.   We just wanted to get information to this 
large community as quickly
as possible.

Then, when further evaluation of all products that BMC ships was completed, 
postings were made to the web
site and sent via email that detailed every product and included whether the 
product was affected or not
affected by the issue.  The products were clearly placed in one or the other 
category.  This way, there is no
question about "well my product is not listed so does it or does it not have an 
issue"?  The products are
on the "NOT affected" or on the "Affected" list.  There may be a couple that 
are still under evaluation not on
either list and that is because there is not an answer yet.

In order for me to share with the BMC team what exactly you found confusing or 
misdirecting about the
communication or any aspect of it, could you please detail what issues you had 
with communication.  You
can either post to the list or send me email directly.  Then, we can make sure 
that we work on issues you
had so that things can be more clear in the future.

If getting some early information about the Remedy line was confusing, we can 
hold off any information until
all information is available (and that would have ment several days delay in 
getting the information about
the Remedy product to our customers).

If something about the format or wording or other about the message is the 
problem, identifying that issue
would help the team be more clear in the future.

Thank you for any assistance you can offer to clarify your comments about 
confusion and misdirection on this
particular issue.

Doug Mueller

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Andrew Hicox
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:03 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Re: Remedy, OpenSSL, and the Heartbleed bug

**
Yeah but ADDM is, and you've gotta actually click through to the web page or 
PDF to find that out (and to find out that nearly everything else on the "ZOMG 
THESE THINGS ARE AFFECTED BY TEH HEARTBLEEEDZ!!!" email actually are NOT 
affected.)

Why is it that literally every single communication with BMC is shrouded by a 
cloud of confusion or outright misdirection lately? I can't imagine the epic 
fiasco it must be when support orders out for pizza LOL.



On Wednesday, April 16, 2014, Jase Brandon 
<jasebran...@gmail.com<mailto:jasebran...@gmail.com>> wrote:
**
Hello All,
Please disregard my last post. I answered my own question after re-reading the 
BMC Flash. Per Doug's earlier statement, the Remedy product line is not 
affected :-)

Thanks,

Jase

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Jase Brandon 
<jasebran...@gmail.com<mailto:jasebran...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Doug and All,
I just got the below mail from BMC. I thought we were all clear that the 
heartbleed virus was nothing for us to be concerned about regarding the Remedy 
product line. Is this still the case or should we now be concerned with 
heartbleed?
I've already communicated to our management after Doug's last mail that 
heartbleed was a non-issue so I'm hoping I don't have to reverse myself.

Thanks in Advance,

Jase Brandon
Sr. Remedy Developer

As you requested(1), BMC Software Customer Support is notifying you of the 
following information:
Type(2)    Description    Date    Link
    BMC Software is alerting users to a serious issue where some BMC Products 
and services might be vulnerable to the OpenSSL flaw known as Heartbleed 
(CVE-2014-0160).    April 15, 2014    HTML(3)PDF(3)
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