Lisa,

You didn't mention the version of the mid-tier you are using, but I am going to
make a wild guess that it is 8.1 no service pack or earlier.

Why?

Because 8.1 sp1 and later should have completely resolved the issue that you 
were
seeing and the need to clear your local browser cache.

The steps you included about clearing your browser cache were necessary before
8.1 sp1 of the mid tier.

We finally isolated what was causing the issue.  It is a characteristic of the
browser caching model.  If you try and open a page, it just checks to see if it 
has
that page already and if so, it uses it.  Well, if you have opened our page, you
have it and the URL is the same so your cached page is used, even if the page 
has
changed.  Because we have the same URL, it doesn't pick up our change.  It will
eventually as there is a setting in the cache for how long before it gets a new
copy anyway (this is typically set to 1 day, but it can be longer).

With 8.1 sp1, there is an additional check being made during the open of the 
window
to see if you have the same exact version of the dynamic page (not just the URL 
is
the same) and if not, the page gets reloaded automatically.

So, your steps are right for 8.1 unpatched and earlier.

But, if you upgrade to 8.1 sp1 or later, you should find the entire need to ever
recache the mid-tier or to clear your local browser cache are gone.  (unless of
course you have your mid-tier cache configured to check for updates every hour 
say
and you want some change to propagate faster than the 1 hour interval, then 
forcing
a recache of the mid-tier could be used -- but you would not need to worry about
the end user browser cache even in this case.

NOTE: that midtier 8.1 has been fully tested and is compatible with 7.6.04 and
later releases of the AR System server.  It should be fine with versions earlier
than that as well, but it has not been fully tested with earlier (unsupported)
versions.

Just a reminder that the issue here has been resolved.

Doug Mueller

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa A DLA CTR INFORMATION 
OPERATIONS
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 9:09 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Clearing Browser Cache

I forgot to add that to the list of things I did over and over and didn't get 
any results.  I did what you suggested and also manually deleted all items 
under the Temporary Internet Files folder and even that didn't work.  

Usually one or a combination of these things used to work, but I've never had 
to UNCHECK Preserve Favorites Website Data.  Or maybe it was always unchecked 
before and our admins recently made it checked by default. 

I dunno, but I was starting to pull my hair out.  Luckily I still have some of 
it left.  :)

Lisa

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Stroud, Natalie K
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 11:44 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Clearing Browser Cache

** 

We've found that the browser cache has to be COMPLETELY cleared, and if you 
don't UNCHECK Preserve Favorites Website Data, you won't completely clear it, 
and the user may still have the problem.  So Lisa, what you report here is spot 
on with what we've found.

 

If you don't want to have to remember to UNCHECK Preserve Favorites Website 
Data, the other thing you can do is from your IE Internet Options General Tab, 
under Browsing History, click Settings, then View Files.  That will bring up 
your Temporary Internet Files folder.  We always have our users check that (or 
we remote in and check it for them), and we tell them that for there to be a 
valid chance of ITSM working after a break, that folder must be COMPLETELY 
empty.  You can do a Ctrl-A (for Select All) in that folder and then manually 
delete any remaining files.

 

If your users are like ours, they may complain about this, but hold firm and 
insist.  We've found that a complete cache (sometimes in conjunction with 
flushing the MT cache) clears our users' problems up way more often than not.

 

Cheers,

 

Natalie Stroud

SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories

ARS-ITSM Reporting Specialist

Albuquerque, NM USA

nkst...@sandia.gov <mailto:nkst...@sandia.gov> 

ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 - Windows 2003 - SQL Server 2008

 

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa A DLA CTR INFORMATION 
OPERATIONS
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 9:21 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Clearing Browser Cache

 

** 

I found a solution to a problem that I was having that took me 3 days to 
finally fix.  

 

I updated a form in Remedy (AST:ComputerSystem), cleared the midtier cache and 
cleared my browser cache.

 

Sometimes this doesn't work and I still see the old data in my browser (IE 8), 
but most of the times it does.

 

I have some steps that I take that usually fixes the problem, but after three 
days and about a million clearing of caches and rebooting, I finally was able 
to fix the problem.  

 

When deleting my Browser cache, I UNCHECKED the "Preserve Favorites Website 
Data"

 

How I knew that it was my PC and not the MidTier was because my coworker was 
able to see the changes on his PC.  I even had him log in as me and he was able 
to see the changes.

 

I've NEVER had to do this before (uncheck the 'Preserve Favorites Website 
Data').  But after:

 

Deleting Temp Internet Files, Cookies, Form Data and Passwords in IE

Deleting my account on User Preferences

Kicking off a Disk Cleanup on my PC

Clearing my SSL State in IE 8

Rebooting my PC

Syncing the Cache on Midtier

Flushing the Cache on the Midtier

Deleting my User Tool cache files (yes, I was willing to try anything)

 

So anyway, wanted to pass this along in case anyone else was struggling with 
this.

 

Lisa Kemes

Remedy Consultant

Dev Technology Group

DLA Office: (717) 770-6437

Cell Phone: (717) 602-9460

lisa.ke...@devtechnology.com

 

 

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