As a solution to the conference sales approach....why attend a conference that's all salesy.
Why would I pay $2000 plus, to go to a sales rally vs just asking remedy to come to the office and demo their products? I know they will show ;) I hope they add technical back in....for developers it just makes sense. Thoughts? > On Jul 29, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Rick Cook <remedyr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ** > Looks like they updated the session times to more reasonable values. Some of > that may be time zone adjustment, but at least evenings now look free for > networking and other activities. > > I know that not everyone is ready for the advanced stuff, and that we need > sessions at all levels. But I see maybe 5-6 breakouts I would definitely > attend. The rest are kinda meh... > > Rick > > >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Warren R. Baltimore II >> <warrenbaltim...@gmail.com> wrote: >> ** >> err...that would be San Jose.... heh...still haven't had my full load of >> coffee..... >> >>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Warren R. Baltimore II >>> <warrenbaltim...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> First off, as to Claire's earlier comment, I am truly flattered..... >>> >>> I'm not sure why anyone would have thought this to be any different then it >>> has ALWAYS been when BMC ran this thing. I still remember giving an ear >>> full to some poor staffer in San Diego back in 2006 (I think) about how >>> upset I was that it was nothing more then one long marketing tool for the >>> ITSM suite.... At the time, all I did was development, and it was pretty >>> darn evident that BMC no longer wished to sell the ARSystem as a >>> development platform. >>> >>> I've not been able to get to many of these since I left the University of >>> Washington (it is so much harder to convince a profit motivated manager of >>> these things then a University manager!), and I had hoped to go to this, >>> but now I'm not so sure.... Maybe I'm just better off finding a good class >>> somewhere.... >>> >>> BMC, you really need to start listening to this group. They are some of >>> your Remedy products biggest fans. We can can be a bit of handful >>> sometimes, but we're worth it! Stop treating this as a way to just sell >>> your products. We've already bought into that. Instead, think about how >>> YOU can help US to better leverage these products. Do a better job in >>> running this event. Perhaps give it to the education and engineering/R&D >>> departments, and leave the sales staff at home! >>> >>> *sigh* >>>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Tami Palacky <tpala...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> ** >>>> too funny Jason!!! >>>> >>>> seems they are going back to how BMC used to run the conference. too bad >>>> there is no more WWRUG. i guess the guys got burned out. :( >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Monday, July 28, 2014 7:57:42 PM UTC-4, Jason Miller wrote: >>>>> ** >>>>> By doing our own thing we would simply be creating an overlay on ENGAGE. >>>>> Once we create the overlay we can customize and changes by BMC won't have >>>>> an impact. Except if they delete one of us in base, that will have an >>>>> impact on the overlay. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Tauf Chowdhury <tauf...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> ** >>>>>> Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We >>>>>> can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo <lm...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe >>>>>>> panel like, or small breakouts or something... >>>>>>> Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for >>>>>>> this... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not >>>>>>> attended? If it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long >>>>>>> time, we could use the place to do some small groups about a theme or >>>>>>> something? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" >>>>>>> and whatever? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it >>>>>>> (that could be a problem with BMC rules though). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury <tauf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>> I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. >>>>>>>> Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. >>>>>>>> Love networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you >>>>>>>> decide to go. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury <tauf...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed >>>>>>>>> speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: Lead >>>>>>>>> Technical Marketing Consultant >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo <lm...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>> The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on >>>>>>>>>> tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 >>>>>>>>>> breakouts), or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook <remed...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>> And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with >>>>>>>>>>> Engineering or the other evening activities go? Will they even >>>>>>>>>>> have them? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Rick >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller" <jason....@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>> Not impressed. My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing >>>>>>>>>>>> World. We haven't missed you all these years. Maybe I need to >>>>>>>>>>>> just let it soak in for a day or two?.?.?. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few >>>>>>>>>>>> presentations by customers. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire >>>>>>>>>>>>> <claire....@memorialhermann.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>>> Just shaking my head… >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:ars...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of laurent matheo >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: ars...@arslist.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems the list is on now: >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" >>>>>>>>>>>>> <claire....@memorialhermann.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You are certainly trusting Terry! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird >>>>>>>>>>>>> rate. I can see it now… >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ME: Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to >>>>>>>>>>>>> be gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea >>>>>>>>>>>>> what the content is. There is an early bird discount!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> DIR: Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what >>>>>>>>>>>>> you sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to >>>>>>>>>>>>> spend. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ME: Big Sigh… >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:...@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: ars...@arslist.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say >>>>>>>>>>>>> goodbye to that $75! Hehe >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma >>>>>>>>>>>>> <tboo...@objectpath.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st. So, if the >>>>>>>>>>>>> agenda is out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire". >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I had to make a call last week, so I registered and >>>>>>>>>>>>> paid for the conference with the understanding that I could >>>>>>>>>>>>> de-register up to a certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, we'll see about that. :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Terry >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:...@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: ars...@arslist.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a >>>>>>>>>>>>> conference that we have no idea what the content is… There should >>>>>>>>>>>>> not be “early bird” pricing that expires before the detailed >>>>>>>>>>>>> agenda is even published, in my opinion. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:...@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: ars...@arslist.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go >>>>>>>>>>>>> through their conference desk. We are adults. We should be able >>>>>>>>>>>>> to make our own reservations. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can get approval. I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> way it was before it became WWRUG! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:...@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: ars...@arslist.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: ENGAGE >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating >>>>>>>>>>>>> and giving people the information they need to decide, get >>>>>>>>>>>>> approvals and make travel arrangements than BMC. Let's just hope >>>>>>>>>>>>> they don't completely miss the mark on this conference. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan >>>>>>>>>>>>> <david_...@brown.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that >>>>>>>>>>>>> lots of marketing. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this even worth going to? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years" >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Note: This e-mail and any attachments may be privileged and >>>>>>>>>>>>> confidential and protected from disclosure. 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