Hello Dave,

I did many of those things below myself. 

Are you sure Led Zep wasn't at Convention Hall?  In any event, that 
fine memory still seems an inadequate reason to keep ourselves 
shackled to the past. They didn't stay together after Bonzo died.  
Neither did the Casino.

Louis Navarette once floated the idea of hosting a world-wide a 
archetecture comptetition to determine what group could come up with 
the most wonderful design of a building where the Casino now 
stands.  The thought was to invite the most masterful archetects on 
the globe, and raise money for a substantial prize for the winner. 
We would get great publicity and a world-class place to build in 
that spot.

Unfortunately the nostalgia nazi, pin-ball piners and carosel 
groupies convinced Fishman that the Casino should be saved for 
"historical" reasons, when in reality that building fails every 
reasonable test for historical importance.

And Skippy thinks I lack vision.  Sheesh!

Have fun in your nasty old Casino instead of the world class 
building that could have been there.  Your side won.


PS - good luck with the NJ Music Hall of fame. I'm a fan of the idea.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "David J. Mieras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> The carousal house is an incredible design built solely for one 
purpose. How 
> many carousal houses are there today in N.J. or the U.S.A.? I do 
not think 
> the present owner wants to save the Casino. Talk is cheap as any 
politician 
> knows. I would love to produce and display an exhibit for the 
NJMHOF in the 
> carousal house someday!!!
> 
> I've seen shows in the Casino, ask Ricky D about Led Zep, Tom. 
I've driven 
> go-karts around the ice rink, was on the hockey team, played 
pinball w/ my 
> friend's Southside and Bruce, and a whole lot of other fun thing's 
in the 
> Casino. The power plant is also quite impressive to me. If you had 
seen the 
> stack lit up in the 50's (what workmanship for a smoke stack), you 
might 
> change your mind about these building's. Same for the carousal 
house. All 
> lit, reflecting off the lake w/ the Mayfair and Palace was 
extraordinary. 
> There was also a carousal building, duck pin bowling alley, 
theater, etc. 
> lit to the hilt on the Ocean Grove side. Thriving stores were 
located 
> boardwalk level in the power plant. It was an extremely healthy 
business 
> district. It's "all" gone except the Casino and power plant.
> 
> The start over again/make massive amounts of money crowd must be 
happy that 
> the Casino is falling into the ocean. Saves money on future demo. 
The new 
> face of Asbury has George Washington on it and George usually wins.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 12:49 AM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: To: Keady From: Asbury People
> 
> 
> >
> > Did you attend any events at the Casino in the 1960's?
> >
> >
> > As for "aesthetic appreciation," that is certainly in the eye of 
the
> > beholder.  Now go down to the BW and behold the Casino.  Really
> > Skip, this place is beautiful to you?  No wonder Fishman fired 
you.
> >
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >> "The Casino was always Convention Hall's ugly sister.  I'm in my
> > 40's
> >> and it was a barely functioning, half-boarded hang-out for 
creeps
> > even
> >> when I was a kid."
> >>
> >> I brought dates to the Paramount, walked the boardwalk and 
played
> >> various games from CH to the Casino in the early 60's.  I didn't
> >> recognize then how beautiful both structures are; that you 
think at
> >> age 40 something, that the Casino is the ugly sister, speaks
> > volumes
> >> about your aesthetic appreciation.  The Casino, Carousel power
> > plant
> >> complex is a remarkable stroke of architectural brilliance; that
> > you
> >> fail to see this tells me you've missed your moment, you would 
have
> >> been right at home with that council in the 80's that sold the
> > copper
> >> roof.
> >>
> >> I'm beginning to understand your fixation on monster trucks.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >I would trade a 1,000 Tillies for a restored Casino...
> >> >
> >> > Perhaps you missed my column entitled: "Let's Tear Down The
> >> > Casino."  This is another area where Mr. Fishman and I have a
> > sharp
> >> > disagreement. He actually plans on saving the horrid mess
> > despite my
> >> > counsel to him to tear it down.
> >> >
> >> > The Casino was always Convention Hall's ugly sister.  I'm in 
my
> > 40's
> >> > and it was a barely functioning, half-boarded hang-out for
> > creeps
> >> > even when I was a kid.  Unlike Convention Hall, you will be 
hard
> >> > pressed to find anyone who recalls seeing a show there. Ask
> > around.
> >> > It's usufulness was too short lived to have real historical
> >> > significance. It isn't even the original structure.  Right now
> > there
> >> > is less of it than more of it, so you can't really "save" it,
> > rather
> >> > you can build something new following the old design. That
> >> > isn't "saving" it, so we shouldn't bother.
> >> >
> >> > I'm certain that if the Casino never existed, and Larry 
Fishman
> >> > showed up with plans to build it, this board would be 
screaming
> > the
> >> > loudest that it is a terrible idea.
> >> >
> >> > The Casino is the classic example of Asbury's past being over-
> >> > romanticized, so that people who didn't see Asbury in it's
> > better
> >> > times have an exaggerated interpretation of its glory.  The
> > Casino
> >> > is the ugliest building at the Shore. Always was - which is 
one
> > of
> >> > the reasons people didn't use it for very long.
> >> >
> >> > Imagine the possibilities if we trusted ourselves to build
> > something
> >> > wonderful at the southern end of the boardwalk, instead of
> > shackling
> >> > ourselves to the lesser parts of our past.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >




 
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