Skippy,
And by all of that below are you joining the discussion of whether
AP is or isn't a racist place? I don't think I see you taking a
postion on the subject.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> `"If I made a negative, sweeping gerneralization about the Kretzu
> family, as a member of the family, you would take it as a "personal
> slap."
those of us that have a familial association with the City
> take it as a personal slap in the face. Can't help it -it just
> happens.
someday, as a community leader in AP, you too will have
such
> a persoanl closeness
that you also take it as a personal criticism
> when you hear a criticism of AP in general."'
>
> Poor Tommy; one day when all the dragons are slain he'll invent
more
> so that he can again mount his gallant steed. Seems Asbury's bad
old
> days, pre-signing of the great Fish-hope the redevelopment
agreement,
> racial tensions were high, crime was common, business and the
schools
> suffered, and the middle class, including the DeSeno clan, fled to
> safer ground. Then an amazing thing happened, The Fishman
discovered
> a new land, full of promise, where councilman were only too happy
to
> give away the keys to the city, all manner of lawyers were
delighted
> to do his bidding, where property taxes by way of abatement were
> virtually nonexistent and very soon the streets would be paved with
> gold; all could be had by anyone willing to sell their soul.
>
> Then when all looked oakey dokey a few rabble rousers, undoubtedly
> liberals, began making outrageous claims; the streets were not of
gold
> simply gone, the historic buildings ought not be left to fall into
the
> sea, racial tensions had not declined, residents on the west side
were
> not sharing in the rebirth, The Fishman warned not to bring your
> children and the promised redevelopment jobs were not to be.
>
> Then Tommy had a flash of genius; he took to the ramparts (the 3
> village news) and announced to one and all "Mission Accomplished".
> The rest is history.
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Jim you say of me:
> >
> > > And to be clear, so that you do not twist my words, yes Tom, I
am
> > >saying that you are being immature and along with it,
> > >intellectually dishonest regarding the issue of racism in
Asbury
> > >Park.
> >
> >
> > So now you change the subject from racism to attacks about my
use of
> > intellect. And you come to this conclusion about me still
without
> > citing any reference to actual incidents of racism in AP. I'm
on
> > the floor laughing that you portray racism in epidemic
proportions
> > in AP without being able to cite a single instance of it. I'm
> > intellectually dishonest?
> >
> > As usual for liberals, when you are confronted with the
baselessness
> > of your alarming claims, instead of conceding the point, you
resort
> > to name calling. You don't support your conclusion with facts.
You
> > try to support your conclusion with: "Anyone disagreeing with me
is
> > not employing my level of intellectualism." Rather elitist,
don't
> > you think?
> >
> > Happy to have learned my debating skills at APHS not CBA,
> >
> > I remain,
> >
> > BlueBishop82.
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