"I held that either the ordinance was mistaken (date) since the PB could not be given a March 2002 plan in January 2002 and that on its face, it could not adopt any plan that was not dated January 16 or earlier. This is exactly what I meant about one lie begetting another."
Dan, I hate to disagree; however, according to Einstein's The Special Theory of Relativity: "that a moving clock seems to run slower than an identical motionless clock, so if observers A and B in space have identical clocks with them and have great speed with respect to each other, then A will see the clock of B run slower than his ownÂ…" hence, if we substitute January 2002 plan for `clock of B' and March 2002 plan for `clock of A', it is entirely possible and considering the warp 12 speed of The Fishman's development activities that the March plan, maybe even the June plan or even plans not yet envisioned might preexist the January 2002 plan; and that my friend is the genius of Aaron, Weldon, Fishman, the old guard council and various bagmen who've each played their respective parts in this, the ultimate salvation of Asbury Park. Any questions? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you listened closely to Clarke, the questions and more > importantly Faiella, a couple of things became clear. > > Firstly, Clarke began to explain that his role in creating new > drafts of the plan (I beleive he almost admitted that there were > several) was to CLARIFY and correct issues in prior versions. This > would go to the issue that the added language about C-8 was simply a > further clarification of the implied language (FINISH) in the March > version. That issue needed to be further investigated to determine > whether he was doing that on his own or directed to do so by the > Planning Board or City because that is the real intent of the March > language. Keady appeared to start such a line of questioning until > cut off by Faiella. I thought that Faiella should have been > excoriated by the Council for doing so. > > Loffredo appears to be saying that the Planning Board always > considered that the C-8 could go to 10 and 16 stories even if > demolished. I guess we will need further testimony from those who > were there and whatever hard evidence there is to find out for sure. > > Secondly, if you recall, one of my earlier criticisms of Ordinance > 2607 that adopted the Plan, said that it gave the Planning Board the > plan on January 16, 2002 and that the PB gave its recommendations on > April 26 and that it was adopting the plan it gave the PB (on > January 16). I held that either the ordinance was mistaken (date) > since the PB could not be given a March 2002 plan in January 2002 > and that on its face, it could not adopt any plan that was not dated > January 16 or earlier. By all accounts I read, the PB was in fact > given the plan sometime in March 2002 and not January. > > While I am unsure if the error (if it is one) invalidates the > ordinance, it appears Faiella is covering his bases because last > night he said (on the record) that the PB was given the plan much > earlier than March 2002. I guess somewhere out there we have hard > evidence of what and where. This is exactly what I meant about one > lie begetting another. Its small stuff but when you add them up they > show something very bad. > > I assume my only alternative to clean this up is to mount a lawsuit > or bring everyting to the US Attorney's office or the FBI. Anybody > want to kick in for a lawsuit or have suggestions about some > organization that might do it pro bono? > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
