its a dump
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lightgrw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 19, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Traderdube wrote:
>
> > Hinge my boy, I just knew you were going to rant over Danny boys
> > anti-Soap rant. I read the article and I am not ashamed to say
that
> > for
> > all intents and purposes, I agree with Dan. A plaque on the
boardwalk
> > is
> > almost as big a pile of krap as the save tillie thing.
>
> Yeah, I guess the idea of music tourism is pretty dumb for a place
like
> Asbury Park where people have been coming from around the world to
> visit since the late 70s. I'm a bit surprised by your post, I know
you
> were around for the history when it was being made. When you break
it
> down the way you do you make it look like Asbury Park was
ridiculous to
> put up a monument saluting a bunch of musicians and people who
helped
> form the Asbury Park music scene and "sound" that millions of
people
> love around the world.
>
> Why?
>
> Sure Bruce Springsteen tops the list. Guess what? Very few towns
the
> size of Asbury Park will ever have one artist like Mr. Springsteen
to
> feel proud of. Asbury Park not only has Bruce but has Jon Bon
Jovi,
> Southside Johnny, David Sancious, Steven Van Zandt, and Bill
Chinnock
> among its legacy. Southside Johnny's "Hearts of Stone" was voted
by
> Rolling Stone as one of the all-time top 100 albums once; David
> Sancious has recorded and toured with many of the top artists in
the
> world including Bruce, Eric Clapton, Peter Gabriel and Sting;
Steven
> Van Zandt has not only re-emerged in recent years as an actor on
the
> Sopranos but his radio show is heard nationwide; and Bill Chinnock
has
> won Emmy Awards for his songwriting and was dubbed him "the real
> essence of American music" by John Hammond, Sr.
>
> What's wrong with saluting some of the people who were playing in
the
> clubs before and during these guys ride towards fame? Should
history
> only be written based on record sales? Some of these artists have
been
> on top selling records and toured with acts everyone has heard of,
some
> have produced Grammy nominated records, and some have written and
> performed songs in major Hollywood films. Amazingly, most of the
> artists have continued to perform to today.
>
> I saw plenty of people at that S.O.A.P. show who were very
excited to
> see the artists they grew up with that they hadn't seen live in
> decades. There were also people there like me who wanted to see
the
> people who started everything here. As many musicians pointed out,
> there were few places around the country where bars were using LIVE
> bands instead of jukeboxes. Yes, the bands largely played covers
> (until Bruce broke the mold in the late 60s) but SO DID EVERYONE
ELSE!
> Check out the songs on the early albums by The Beatles, The Rolling
> Stones, Searchers, etc. - everybody was covering songs in the
early
> 60s. Asbury Park was DIFFERENT because it became known for LIVE
MUSIC.
>
> Some people disagree with me, but I am fairly confident that the
> S.O.A.P. show would have sold out WITHOUT any Bruce Springsteen
rumors.
> The show was selling very well BEFORE the rumors started. After
the
> rumors hit, the show sold out within a few days. This was about 1
1/2
> months before the show. People were still finding out about the
show.
> I guarantee that fans and family members of the artists would have
been
> interested in the show had they got a chance to hear about it.
> Articles about the show were among some of the most popular read
and
> emailed on the Upstage Magazine website. In fact, several family
> members of one of the artists on the monument were quoted in the
press
> as just learning about the monument dedication and show a few days
> prior. They found out about it from the Upstage site as did many
> people around the country. Given the chance to buy tickets, I'm
sure
> they would have.
>
> Let's face it, Dan J. has always hated not only the Stone Pony but
> music in general. You do not. I'm surprised that anything that
might
> bring a few more people to the Asbury Park boardwalk is such a bad
> thing. It takes up very little space. It was paid for by private
> money. Please explain to me why it's such a bad thing.
>
> -- Gary Wien
>
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