Thanks Jack,

"E Pluribus Unum." - "Out of Many, One."

We read it on our money every day, few of us know the meaning.

Glenn


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Great post!
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dapawprint" <dapawprint@> wrote:
> >
> > All,
> > 
> > I agree that Asbury Park is having a rebirth of tourism.  The 
numbers 
> > of people on the boardwalk, last weekend's gridlock; yes, tourism 
is 
> > coming back.  This is good, but I still have reservations with 
regard 
> > to the City as a whole.
> > 
> > I should place a disclaimer here, lightgrw, that this post is 
> > a "general post" and not intended as a rebuttal to your post.
> > 
> > We have all heard Werner (and others) drone on about rateable's.  
Why 
> > do you think that is?  Well, I am a tourist.  I visit your City 
> > because all of you take time from your lives to show me about and 
> > make my "vacation" enjoyable.  Why should I care 
about "rateable's"?
> > 
> > I DO care about the rateable's.
> > 
> > Why?  Because when I visit your fine City and spend time with all 
of 
> > you, I am also spending money.  Where is that revenue really 
going?
> > 
> > If I spend money on Cookman Avenue, I am helping a rateable.  If 
I 
> > spend money on the Boardwalk, I am helping a group of 
developers.  
> > Well, now, that is a give-and-take, isn't it?  The development is 
> > bringing people in, I suppose that helps the big picture, but the 
> > picture is stained in my opinion.
> > 
> > Those chicken fingers that I bought at Biggies (and tried to walk 
> > over to O'Tooles to eat and was denied) made no money for the 
Little 
> > League, the Bike Church, or the School District.  Those Biggie 
> > chicken fingers made money for the same entity that is making 
money 
> > at O'Toole's where I was turned away.  This makes sense how?
> > 
> > I watched a very enjoyable Independence Day parade in Asbury 
Park.  
> > How many of the Parade marchers did I see on the Boardwalk 
after?  I 
> > am sure that there were some, but I was not able to identify ANY.
> > 
> > Tourism will bring in money, most of it for developers, the CITY 
> > needs money!!  The KIDS need to feel wanted and accepted.  Whitey 
> > Houston:  "The Children are our Future"  It's TRUE!
> > 
> > I agree, things are looking up, I personally would like to see an 
> > effort by the City and the Developers to include EVERYONE!!
> > 
> > One thing that might help with that is for the City to wake the 
Tax 
> > Assessor up and send him out to re-assess the value of the 
> > renovations.  THAT would increase the rateable base and show the 
City 
> > some money! (Assuming that the developers use my chicken finger 
money 
> > to pay their taxes!)
> > 
> > Symmetry, diversity, "A team".
> > 
> > Best wishes,
> > 
> > Glenn
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw <lightgrw@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Downtown is definitely a big part of it, but one thing that 
many 
> > people 
> > > doubted is also true.  People simply didn't believe that Asbury 
> > Park 
> > > could be a tourist destination again.  Let's be honest here.  
How 
> > many 
> > > people on this board said things like people have given up on 
> > Asbury for 
> > > Point Pleasant or other places?   In fact, one of the biggest 
> > supporters 
> > > of Asbury Park used to say that he didn't believe Monmouth 
County 
> > could 
> > > be a place for tourism anymore.
> > > 
> > > I never believed that.  I knew that Asbury Park was special to 
a 
> > great 
> > > many people - both because of the music history as well as the 
> > overall 
> > > boardwalk (and Palace/Casino) experience and memories.
> > > 
> > > Now that the city is slowing looking better each year, the 
people 
> > are 
> > > coming back.  And there's no doubt in my mind that Asbury Park 
not 
> > only 
> > > could have crowds like last weekend every weekend but someday 
> > will.  It 
> > > shouldn't be that hard to understand.  Asbury Park is not in 
the 
> > middle 
> > > of nowhere.  It's surrounded by towns that regularly get tens 
of 
> > > thousands of visitors each weekend and Asbury was the biggest 
of 
> > them all. 
> > > 
> > > The biggest mistake was having people forget about Asbury's 
tourism 
> > > potential...   ten years from now people will scratch their 
heads 
> > and 
> > > wonder why the city demolished everything for condos rather 
than 
> > use 
> > > what is already in place - a beautiful boardwalk, ocean, and 
music 
> > history.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > jandlinap wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > >
> > > > There is a huge reason why AP is coming back... and noone 
wants to
> > > > say that its the people who have in recent years made an 
> > investment
> > > > in buying homes... its those that have gone to the 
downtown...and
> > > > made an investment. The beach and the boardwalk have always 
been
> > > > here... 3 years ago it wasnt safe to walk Cookman... now its 
a 
> > dining
> > > > at arts center. So when we talk about whats really bringing AP
> > > > back.. lets think about those that own homes...have fixed 
them 
> > up...
> > > > pay taxes... shop in the downtown stores..(although not that 
> > many ..
> > > > but more coming ...) eat in the restaurants... have a cup of
> > > > coffee... have a drink... this is truly what is bringing 
Asbury 
> > Park
> > > > Back... so yes.. support the boardwalk..its an exciting place 
to 
> > be..
> > > > (and ralphs is great...and next season he will be DOWNTOWN 
too)...
> > > > but dont forget the downtown.. that is what will keep AP 
strong!
> > > >
> > > > In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AsburyPark%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>, 
> > > > "oakdorf" <oakdorf@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > My wife actaully stopped with me twice on Sunday in AP.
> > > > >
> > > > > REd Rasberry Ralph's Ice (at 1pm) and Peanut Butter at 10 
pm.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone could top that, let me know. Now that's one for 
the
> > > > record
> > > > > books.
> > > > >
> > > > > A sunday morning bike ride from Ocean Twp and down the 
> > boardwalk.
> > > > > Stops along the way - Motif, Style Rocket (she's buying the 
> > checker
> > > > > shorts this week...), etc etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thought we'd turn around at OG, but she was on a friends 
bike 
> > that
> > > > > semed to ride itself. Wound up at Avon Pavillon for 
breakfast - 
> > but
> > > > > the nuts there stopped breakfast at 11 am (sunday go 
figure). 
> > So we
> > > > > rode to Kleins Fish market in Belmar. Great lunch.
> > > > >
> > > > > Way back stoped in OG ahd napped on the pier, then back 
through 
> > AP.
> > > > > Ralph's for her first of a lifetime ice from Ralphs.,,,
> > > > >
> > > > > Stopped in Posh Den and I bs'd with (I forgot his name) but 
> > we're
> > > > the
> > > > > same age and remembered "driving through AP" to get to 
> > Belmar....
> > > > >
> > > > > It may be slow going - things will fail and things will 
succeed.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's 11 now. I have a meeting in AP around 1.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just wondering what flavor ice I'll get today.
> > > > >
> > > > > The weather has been amazing.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



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