Sharon,
Please give my post another read. I meant that it was the same old
use of a prejudice to scare voters. The prejudicial stereotype being
that all black people, regardless of age, are working the system.
The truth being that many POOR people, regardless of race have to
become quite good at working the system because the system sucks.
The truth is that there are more white people receiving public
assistance than blacks or latinos. It is a economic issue. If
you're children are hungry then you will figure out a way to work the
system and I know a lot of people who will help you to do it too.
There is no argument from me on the history of racial prejudice. It
is very real, it has always existed and it will continue to exist as
long as people keep espousing it. That is the entire point of my
post. Prejudice does exists and it is being used to incite fear by
if not John Sidney McCain III then by those who are behind him.
Jennifer
In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sharon_b283" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Old Black people playing the system"? When did WE ever "play the
> system" and please dignify that! For 450 years people of African
> descent, were held in bondage, described as 3/5ths of a person,
> according to the Constitution, uneducated on purpose, because those
> who managed to "learn" rebelled against being "property", as though
a
> head of cattle! You call that, playing the system? I'll repeat
> again, if you have a 450 year Head Start, when will we catch up?
>
> I find your post, negative, and not being Black yourself, wouldn't
> know what we feel or have experienced. There are millions of Blacks
> in this country who have played by the rules, gone to school, served
> this country in times of war and not, had their children educated
and
> wanted the American Dream, while there are over 2 million Blacks
> incarcerated in American prisons, while being only 12% of the
population.
>
> So explain to me, while whites wrap themselves in the American Flag,
> don't serve or try to get out of serving, then think of only
> themselves as patriots, as though patriotism cones in only one
color?
> Is that the "9-11" effect where only police and firemen are
patriots?
> I don't think so!
>
> Where is the so-called "fairness and equality"? John McCain's
family
> has "played" the system, allowing America to educate them for free
for
> 100 years, attending the Naval Academy for free! He became a
prisoner
> of war, because his flights bombed Vietnamese people! He is no hero
> that I can recall! He was a "hotdogger", who went on R and R after
> his fellow Navy men were killed by his plane, then got himself
> transferred to another ship! Google it and see!
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jennifer" <jennifernjca@> wrote:
> >
> > Sharon, I will answer your questions to Tommy. Although I don't
> > think he'd agree with my facts which are from the dictionary and
the
> > encyclopedia.
> >
> > Sharon asked "What about the "coded" language being used against
> > Obama? That he's a muslim, socialist, consorting with
terrorists,
> > when he's always been a Christian, that sharing the Sharwealth
with
> > the poor instead of the rich, makes him a socialist and that he
sat
> > on a board that the Annenberg foundation sponsored in Chicago and
> > that Ayers,
> >
> > Tommy answers "Nothing is Coded. All of that comes from Obaam's
> > actions."
> >
> > That seems to be a non-answer.
> >
> > Muslim - In Arabic, "one who surrenders to God"; a follower of
Islam.
> > There are 1 billion Muslims in the world and 6 million in the
United
> > States.
> > Consort - keep company with; hang out with
> > Terrorist - One who utilizes the systematic use of violence and
> > intimidation to achieve political objectives, while disguised as
a
> > civilian non-combatant.
> > Socialist - a political advocate of socialism.
> > Socialism - An economic system in which the basic means of
production
> > are primarily owned and controlled collectively, usually by
> > government under some system of central planning.
> > Social democracy - a political ideology of the left or centre-
left
> > that emerged in the late 19th century from the socialist movement
and
> > continues to be influential in many countries worldwide
> > In general, contemporary social democrats support:
> >
> > A mixed economy consisting mainly of private enterprise, but with
> > government owned or subsidized programs of education, healthcare,
> > child care and related services for all citizens.
> > Government bodies that regulate private enterprise in the
interests
> > of workers, consumers and fair competition.
> > Advocacy of fair trade over free trade.
> > An extensive system of social security (although usually not to
the
> > extent advocated by democratic socialists or other socialist
groups),
> > with the stated goal of counteracting the effects of poverty and
> > insuring the citizens against loss of income following illness,
> > unemployment or retirement.
> > Moderate to high levels of taxation (through a value-added and/or
> > progressive taxation system) to fund government expenditure.
> > Social democrats also tend to support:
> >
> > Environmental protection laws (although not always to the extent
> > advocated by Greens), such as combating global warming and
increasing
> > alternative energy funding.
> > Support for immigration and multiculturalism.
> > A secular and progressive social policy, although this varies
> > markedly in degree.
> > A foreign policy supporting the promotion of democracy, the
> > protection of human rights and where possible, effective
> > multilateralism.
> > As well as human rights, social democrats also support social
rights,
> > civil rights and civil liberties
> >
> > Opinion: Barack Obama is not a Muslim. Nothing has ever been
shown
> > to prove he even considered practicing Islam. I have to add and
so
> > what if he is one? It is a faith. I was not born when Kennedy
ran
> > for president, but I did hear a lot about it from my Irish
Catholic
> > family. If elected, Kennedy would follow the Pope not the people
was
> > the cry of the opposition. Maybe it was a cover for "he isn't
like
> > us. He isn't a WASP." That was a mere 48 years ago. Islam is a
> > faith like any other. I know a lot of wonderful people who are
> > Muslims. Right now with Iraq and extreme Islamic fundamentalism,
> > Muslim scares people.
> >
> > Socialism is another bugaboo that is thrown around to scare
people.
> > America already has socialistic programs like Social Security. I
pay
> > into it every week and I don't get to collect it until I am older
or
> > unable to work. That is socialism. Some countries with strong
> > Democratic socialism parties include England, France, Israel,
> > Ireland, Canada, Brazil, Australia and Germany. People tend to
often
> > confuse socialism with Fascism. Fascism - A philosophy or system
of
> > government that is marked by stringent social and economic
control, a
> > strong, centralized government usually headed by a dictator, and
> > often a policy of belligerent nationalism. Nazi Germany was a
> > fascist country. Modern Germany is a Social Democracy.
> > Bill Ayers did horrible things. He killed people. Obama agreed
to
> > serve on a board that Bill Ayers also served on. I am on many
boards
> > and advisory committees. I can't say for sure that no one on any
of
> > these boards is now or has ever been a terrorist. Still I
consort
> > with these strangers on a regular basis for the good of community
> > development, education, art and homeownership. I'm sure we could
all
> > be accused of consorting with someone.
> >
> > Everything is coded because no one wants to admit they're
alienating
> > a large majority of the voters. Just the term "consorting with
> > terrorists" is a great example. Consort originally meant the
spouse
> > of a king or queen aka Royal Consort. Prince Phillip of the UK
is
> > the royal consort. That is an intimate relatonship. Sitting on
a
> > board is not very intimate. I have been on boards where I can
barely
> > remember the names of many of the other members. Socialism is
> > another big old scary word used to frighten older voters because
it
> > is often confused with the more extreme fascism. Are we scared
of
> > England? Australia? Canada? No those are our friends and they
are to
> > different degrees - socialists (shock!). That doesn't make Obama
> > one. It is just to scare. I also find it racist because it
harkens
> > back to the old black people playing the system. POOR people
often
> > do become very good at playing the system. It's wrong to
categorize
> > all people of any group that way. Which leads to the final
definition
> > Prejudice - bias: a partiality that prevents objective
consideration
> > of an issue or situation
> >
> > The whole thing reeks of prejudice and I don't say that lightly
or
> > often. Wouldn't it be great if everyone admitted our biases and
> > examined issues objectively. I hope that many will on election
day.
> > Are you going to help get out the vote?
> > Jennifer
> >
>
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