We have to be careful what we wish for here.  The disaster scenario 
would be MM pulls out of Asbury and nobody else steps up to take 
over the project because other real estate opportunities are trading 
at distressed prices now but don't have nearly the risk that Asbury 
has.  Or MM funds for Asbury get diverted elsewhere because of the 
opportunities arising.  I spent all day at a distressed conference 
today and spectacular properties are trading at enormous discounts.  

It becomes very difficult, virtually impossible to get funding for 
long term projects in this environment particularly ones that don't 
generate near term cash flow (asbury is a long tailed, long term 
cash flow play with big potential reward but bad near term 
economics).  

I wonder what the cotingency plan would be if MM backed out and cut 
its losses to focus elsewhere.  This is probably a much more serious 
risk than most on this board perceive.  Any thoughts?

dan S.  


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <oakdorf@> wrote:
> >
> > Very interesting (maybe boring for some), but from this read, 
$60m 
> > (that number again) seems that was MM.s money, then this pension 
> > system, Jan 2007, kicked in $125m (25%). Dan would be the best 
to 
> > comment I guess.
> > 
> > 
http://www.psers.state.pa.us/org/board/resolutions/2007/madison.pdf
> > 
> > Some of their analyis on the economy and commercial vacancy 
rates from 
> > today's view, is off.
> > 
> > That coincides with numbers on the commercial side predicting 
higher 
> > vacany rates even on commercial spaces. Like MM, I have a client 
with a 
> > shopping center half full, current tenants in a panic. They are 
ready 
> > to offer one year free rent to get new business in and/or a 
piece of 
> > the business.
> >
> 
> How many have egg on their faces? I thought the market was going to
> tank in 2005, 2006 and 2007. I was finally right. 
> 
> Tons of valuations were wrong. Big deals in NYC going/gone south.
> Macklowe destroyed (again). Tishman Speyer may not make it with 
their
> heady purchases of Peter Cooper Village and Stuyvesant Town.
> Archstone, Blackstone and others' deals unwinding. Everyone forming
> groups to assist in distressed properties.
> 
> Ha! Sort of like the doctor being your undertaker too. Not only 
can we
> guard your health, but if you don;t make, don't worry, we can bury 
you
> too. Nothing like one-stop shopping.
>



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