Im talking about improvement since the last time I came down in the 
summer. You and others seem to be stuck in this nostalgic - its 
better then it was- routine.

Cant you see things from another perspective.

There should be HUGE improvement since Memorial Day. Hell they missed 
that mark and then said it would all be done by Labor Day.

Its November NOW... 

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "New Beetoap" <newbeetoap@> 
wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Over 400 postings - Most of it BS (religion, poitics, arguing)
> > 
> > I looked forward to a HUGE improvement 
> > on my next visit.
> >
> 
> HEre's an improvement - Stella Marina opened and Lagosta.
> 
> Before all this bs, lagosta to me (and tommy) was Martell's arcade, 
then Bob Asay's shop 
> for building his great boats because the pavillons were falling 
down (actually crumbling).
> 
> First ave pav was an arcade, me with dogs/pizza etc (then HV's), 
Kohrs and Criterion ad 
> bathrooms for the public. The casino was boarded up, the boardwalk 
caving in the 
> empress a whore house cookman boarded up, CH not a beer nor cosmo 
in sight.... more 
> hookers on kingsley then people on the boardwalk and you really had 
to have balls to 
> drive around first. second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and 
seventh ave... you had to make 
> sure youhad a spare tire not if, but when you got a flat driving 
down ocean ave, wipe 
> away the fear tog et out and change the tire. but there was always 
a good samaritan 
> looking for a coffee at 1am to change it for you,,,
> 
> Sure the city over the years (not just since Partners or MM) had 
every huckster and REAL 
> developers come to town only to walk away. They either were shook 
down so bad, 
> realized that business had to be done a certain way or people had 
no f'in clue....
> 
> So today you might have what the experienced over the years see -
 "improvement" in a 
> certain way that we either like or hate.  How much "improvement" 
will you see by next 
> summer?
> 
> List what you'd like to see....
> 
> Let's start simple, like plant grass on all the vacant lots in the 
redevelopment zone. 
> Nothing fancy. you don't eve have to plant it. Just throw the seeds 
down.
> 
> And on the budget - kind of hard to do a budget when you know off 
the start you have 
> NO (not enough) money coming in and obligations up the rear...maybe 
the cty should 
> auction off all their archives of old plans that were REAL for 
Cookman ave, the 
> boardwalk... 
> 
> Maybe go plead to the feds that they need some of that $70 billon 
in loans for to cover 
> mismangement and everything else....GM, FORD and CHRYSLER should  
be one - 
> "American Motors" (recal AMC....and the gremlin?
>



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