My memories are dim, but I believe it's a case of absence of :use
argument being the same as (:use :common-lisp) but if you have an
explicit :use argument, you need to explicitly include :common-lisp in
the list for it to be included.

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On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 6:58 AM Robert Dodier <robert.dod...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> For the record, I can reproduce the behavior noted in the comments --
> (asdf:load-system "hello") succeeds if (:use :alexandria) is omitted,
> and fails with "Variable MAIN is unbound" otherwise. I am working with
> SBCL.
>
> It appears that the .lisp was successfully compiled, and the error
> occurs when trying to load the resulting .fasl.
>
> After some tinkering, I think the problem is that the symbols DEFUN
> and WRITE-LINE aren't being resolved to symbols in the symbol package
> COMMON-LISP. I can get the example to work, with (:use :alexandria),
> by either writing cl:defun and cl:write-line in the code, or saying
> (:use :common-lisp) in the package definition.
>
> I don't know offhand why the symbols aren't resolved in the presence
> of (:use :alexandria), no doubt there's a simple explanation.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Robert
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 3:58 PM Robert Goldman <rpgold...@sift.info> wrote:
> >
> > Will you please post a backtrace from SBCL for this. I'm not at all sure I 
> > understand what you mean by "this line fails."
> >
> > What did you do to trigger the error?
> >
> > (asdf:load-system "hello")
> >
> > ?
> >
> > On 8 Jan 2025, at 17:37, Russell L. Carter wrote:
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I am a common-lisp noob. I am not a programmer noob, nor
> > a build system noob.
> >
> > I have carefully studied fare's asdf manual, pages
> > 25-26 in the pdf and backwards through the reverse dependencies
> > of the terms used, about the package-inferred-system. I have a
> > problem that I've whittled down to a very small snippet.
> >
> > I'm using SBCL 2.4.10.117-507e7ae05 and its native ASDF, but
> > also tested against ASDF repo head (ln -s into ~/common-lisp,
> > verified in the repl).
> >
> > My question is why this system, located in file
> > "./hello.asd", containing:
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > (asdf:defsystem "hello"
> > :class :package-inferred-system
> > :depends-on ("hello/src/main"))
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > paired with the system/package file "./src/main.lisp",
> > containing:
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > (uiop:define-package :hello/src/main
> > ;; (:use :alexandria) ;; XXXRLC This line fails: "The variable MAIN
> > ;; is unbound". I have no idea why. Backtrace provides no clues
> > ;; (to me). Load the library in the repl matters not. Elide that
> > ;; line and (asdf:load-system "hello") => T and then CL-USER>
> > ;; (hello/src/main:main) => urg \n "urg" as expected.
> > (:export #:main))
> >
> > (in-package :hello/src/main)
> > (defun main () (write-line "urg"))
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > fails as described in the comment. Sure I would like the answer but
> > the more interesting question is how could I debug this failure?
> >
> > I slogged through the late '90s debugging complex C++
> > template programming errors. Pages and pages of output. I don't
> > mind doing it again. But I don't know where to start with this
> > ASDF build system.
> >
> > Thank you for any suggestions, obviously the answer must be trivial.
> >
> > All the best,
> > Russell L. Carter
> >
> > Robert P. Goldman
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